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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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Default Tfs 215 Melted....wtf!!!!

sooooo...... we were testing out our fully built ls6 motor with full bolt-ons and more with FORGED internals with some spray (200 shot).
We were in 3rd gear on the freeway and when the spray hit the tires spun REALLY bad, it was crazy!!!
Something didnt feel right and the car was shooting out white smoke everywhere!!! we knew it WASNT a blown motor because the motor still had a good idle.....
so when we took the motor apart we saw the the driver side head gasket had blown. the shitty thing is that the gaskets were COMETIC gaskets with ARP head bolts!!!
The motor is about 11:1 compression with 18degrees of timing and about 11.3A/F with TR-6 plugs gapped to 35.
YES we will be using ARP head studs with cometic gaskets and NGK 7's next time.
But has anybody heard anything like this.... let me know what you think....
IT DOESNT seem to be detonation because the pistons are still better then PERFECT and the block also was untouched!!!!
THANKS FOR THE INFO!!!!
ALSO provided is the video when the car was racing and pics of the head and plugs... it is a convertible trans am WS9 vs a buddies BAD *** VETTE!
the trans am spun real bad and he short shifted into 4th & 5th....





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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 06:52 AM
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Can we get a sticky at the top that says .....

NO TR6's for nitrous and take out 2 more degrees of timing then "everyone" says you need to.


To much timing + to hot of a plug + detonation = blow torched head.
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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no tr-6s for nitrous? is that just for bigger shots or, is a cam only and 150 ok with tr6s
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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I'd blame it on your hood. That thing is over the top.... literally.

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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Head lifting at it's worse!
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Can we get a sticky at the top that says .....

NO TR6's for nitrous and take out 2 more degrees of timing then "everyone" says you need to.


To much timing + to hot of a plug + detonation = blow torched head.
No ****. I mean bone stock 100 shot cars 6's are ok. but theres still no reason to not have a 7 in it!
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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What did yo you tq the heads to? and how many times?
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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I'm suprised you didn't hurt a piston. You detonated the hell out of that bank, but the weakest link went first (4 bold head design).

You have a heavy car, which makes it even more prone to detonation.

If you want to run that much timing and that plug, you really need to switch up your fuel at a minimum (like race gas).
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rev limitor will do that also...ask madman, same thing happened to bradys car from hitting the limitor
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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ok just to let everyone know this car has a direct port system with a stand alone fuel system with race gas in it.... also i cant remember exactly what the bolts were torqued to exactly but im pretty sure they were fine, we used a lot of nitrous and about 4 bottles through this set-up, block was completely untouched.....we will be using a much better plug and ARP head studs.....anybody have any suggestions on how to get all the **** outta the holes cuz blowing them out doesnt seem to get it all out, also on what they would torque the head studs to????
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Call the motor guy and ask him what he tq'd the hone plate to. thats where you should be. tq them 3 times minimum losining between each time. make sure they are very clean.
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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Tune-up fail = parts fail.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2003cobraH/C
anybody have any suggestions on how to get all the **** outta the holes cuz blowing them out doesnt seem to get it all out,
Use a good thread chaser (not a tap) and brake cleaner.
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