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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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anyone seen this new motor yet? looks like the same price as the 408 iron block. could be something to lool into.
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being the same price as a 408, it seems to good to be true. 421ci is some serious cubes
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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I'm not a big fan of the 4.1+ stroke cranks, especially on a 6.0 iron block with short cylinder walls.

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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikey 97Z M6
I'm not a big fan of the 4.1+ stroke cranks, especially on a 6.0 iron block with short cylinder walls.

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is there an issue with it? iim kinda likeing the sound of this motor
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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is there an issue with it? iim kinda likeing the sound of this motor
Greater thrust angle = greater piston loading against the cylinder wall. Couple that with a short cylinder length and it's a recipe that many engine builders don't care for. I personally wouldn't run a 4.1+ stroke crank in any LS based engine except a tall deck block. But that's just me.

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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikey 97Z M6
Greater thrust angle = greater piston loading against the cylinder wall. Couple that with a short cylinder length and it's a recipe that many engine builders don't care for. I personally wouldn't run a 4.1+ stroke crank in any LS based engine except a tall deck block. But that's just me.

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so...realistically, would running that motor be a bad idea? i wouldnt be running boost or N20. just na
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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i mean is it prone to thro a rod or something?
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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Sounds like he is just saying you gonna crack the block or something... But it makes sense i guess... Im not very smart on the subject but it sounds like its right
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Joe is your car all up and going again? Back cruisin?
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 11:36 PM
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Joe is your car all up and going again? Back cruisin?
no not yet, maybe soon...maybe not, im not really worreid about it right now
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Originally Posted by Mikey 97Z M6
Greater thrust angle = greater piston loading against the cylinder wall. Couple that with a short cylinder length and it's a recipe that many engine builders don't care for. I personally wouldn't run a 4.1+ stroke crank in any LS based engine except a tall deck block. But that's just me.

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Totally agree. It would be interesting to find out what kind of longevity this setup is capable of...especially with some spray or FI. I'm no expert, but it seems like it would be a pretty short-lived scenario.
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You should just sell me your SS and buy a 421
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 01:13 PM
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There is a lot of controversy over running a 4.1" stroke on an ls block. It puts too much pressure on the sides of the piston skirts, especially with how short they are as it is. A lot of people don't even like the 4" stroke just because you don't have much piston side skirt to make it be able to clear the crank. look in some of the threads people get furious about it lol.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikey 97Z M6
Greater thrust angle = greater piston loading against the cylinder wall. Couple that with a short cylinder length and it's a recipe that many engine builders don't care for. I personally wouldn't run a 4.1+ stroke crank in any LS based engine except a tall deck block. But that's just me.

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It isn't just you that thinks that. A friend (in Utah) HAD a 427 Agastino that he had nothing but problems with and eventually meet it's demise.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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In my experience a motor built as close to square as possible usually last the longest and you can spin the crap out of them.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NataSS Inc
In my experience a motor built as close to square as possible usually last the longest and you can spin the crap out of them.
ive decided not to go with the 421 stroker...it will be about another 6 months before im gonna seriosly plan out my build anyway. need to catch a few more squid before i can afford it. im kinda thinking a 408 would be the most cost effective anyway
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370 is the most cost effective I think.(with a 76mm)
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Originally Posted by smokinponcho73
370 is the most cost effective I think.(with a 76mm)
but isnt a turbo/IC plus the price of the block and and all the internals gonnna cost significantly more than say a 408? i guess a turbo 370 should be good for about 550+hp? i really have no clue, plus its harrd for me to judge stuff like that since my brain surgery
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 01:10 AM
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actually a lsx454 shortblock only costs $2K more than a 408 short block..if i do well enough with fishing the rest of the year ill pull the trigger on the 454. im just in dream mode right now but the 454 is the motor i want and hope to have.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Just depends man. Do you want to buy a turbo or SC new or used? New you're looking at about 3G's and up for either set up. I would find a motor in a wrecking yard like I did. I only paid 1,000$ for mine. Internals, again just depends on what you want. I'll be probably 4grand into my motor before I sell everything else and will have around 620+ to the wheels. Hell John aka fury is into only 1600 including his motor.
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