tire and wheel help
tire and wheel help Ok, I've been reading and searching.
My options are variable but my budget it very limited to almost none existent now.
A. buy a set of 15" x10 wheels and run a MT Street 26X11.50-15LT tread width 9.8 sidewall 12.0
B. buy a used cheap 17x11 pair of what ever I can find cheap and run MT Street 26X11.50-17LT tread width 9.5
sidewall 11.1
C. Buy nothing at all and learn to launch with 30 series tires.
OR I'm open for suggestions. I was leaning towards the MT Streets from reputation, should I be looking at a different tire? Also what about the wheel? Should I look at a stock 16 inch rim instead and try and matgch a tire to it? I'd be cutting my width down a lot by doing it, will that defeat my purpose?
I need to drive to the track with the tire on the car or maybe not? I could haul them I guess. If I did that would a slick on a stock 16 in rim be my best bet?
My options are variable but my budget it very limited to almost none existent now.
A. buy a set of 15" x10 wheels and run a MT Street 26X11.50-15LT tread width 9.8 sidewall 12.0
B. buy a used cheap 17x11 pair of what ever I can find cheap and run MT Street 26X11.50-17LT tread width 9.5
sidewall 11.1
C. Buy nothing at all and learn to launch with 30 series tires.
OR I'm open for suggestions. I was leaning towards the MT Streets from reputation, should I be looking at a different tire? Also what about the wheel? Should I look at a stock 16 inch rim instead and try and matgch a tire to it? I'd be cutting my width down a lot by doing it, will that defeat my purpose?
I need to drive to the track with the tire on the car or maybe not? I could haul them I guess. If I did that would a slick on a stock 16 in rim be my best bet?
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Width isn't as important as height for getting your car to launch... especially with an M6. Pesonally, with your power I'd go with either a 27" or 28" tire. I think an A4 can get away with a shorter tire since the initial hit isn't as hard off the line... but since we shock the whole drivetrain when we launch, we need the taller tire to stick.
Here's what my car looks like with 15" Centerline Convo Pro wheels, and 255/60/15 MT ET Street radials. Those tires equate to a 27x10.5x15:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/northwest-members/519292-yes-s-right-more-wheels.html
Here's what my car looks like with 15" Centerline Convo Pro wheels, and 255/60/15 MT ET Street radials. Those tires equate to a 27x10.5x15:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/northwest-members/519292-yes-s-right-more-wheels.html
But will a 28 fit under there? What about sidewall? Do I want as much sidewall as possible? Should I not even think about a 16x8 rim, would that be a waste of money to put a tire on it?
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You can try it, but once I got past a certain power level (running low 12s) those 16x8s I had on there before (I had MT ET Streets, size 26x10.5x16) were not doing me any good.
As for a 28 inch tire... it'd be really close. You'd have to measure... it wouldn't have fit in mine without some clearancing, rolling the fenders, etc. So I went with a 27" tire, because I didn't want to do any of that stuff.
As for a 28 inch tire... it'd be really close. You'd have to measure... it wouldn't have fit in mine without some clearancing, rolling the fenders, etc. So I went with a 27" tire, because I didn't want to do any of that stuff.
Wow, just saw your link. That looks mean on there. Looks expensive.
So my best bet is a 15 in rim with 27 inches total. What about width? My well is already modified for the 18x315's I run on there now. But they are a +53 offset. Didnt have to roll the fender at all. Not even close.
So my best bet is a 15 in rim with 27 inches total. What about width? My well is already modified for the 18x315's I run on there now. But they are a +53 offset. Didnt have to roll the fender at all. Not even close.
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Width is good for cornering and such, but it won't help you a whole lot with launching on a drag strip. Technically, you want to get away with the smallest tires you can, and still hook up. So for an M6, as I go up in size, I'd try taller first, then taller AND wider.
Also, just because you fit a properly backspaced 18x315 in there, doesn't mean you'll be able to fit a 275x60x15 tire in there. It all depends on the backspacing...
We have 3 choices as F-body drivers. You can get Bogarts, which are properly backspaced for our cars. Only problem, you're looking at at least $2000 for wheels and tires.
2nd choice are Welds. Welds can also be had in the proper backspacing. These are a lot cheaper than Bogarts. Only problem, they won't clear our brake calipers. So you have to grind the hell out of the calipers to get the Welds to fit.
3rd, we have Centerline Convo Pros which is what I have. Cheaper drag wheel and clears our brakes just fine. Only problem, the backspacing is all wrong. So, the wheels will stick out of the fender well if you get too wide of wheels. I have a 15x7.5 on the rear... if I were to put a 15x8.5 wheel on, it'd stick out about a half or full inch past the wheel well. That's fugly, IMO. So, I'm limited in the width of tires I can have.
Also, just because you fit a properly backspaced 18x315 in there, doesn't mean you'll be able to fit a 275x60x15 tire in there. It all depends on the backspacing...
We have 3 choices as F-body drivers. You can get Bogarts, which are properly backspaced for our cars. Only problem, you're looking at at least $2000 for wheels and tires.
2nd choice are Welds. Welds can also be had in the proper backspacing. These are a lot cheaper than Bogarts. Only problem, they won't clear our brake calipers. So you have to grind the hell out of the calipers to get the Welds to fit.
3rd, we have Centerline Convo Pros which is what I have. Cheaper drag wheel and clears our brakes just fine. Only problem, the backspacing is all wrong. So, the wheels will stick out of the fender well if you get too wide of wheels. I have a 15x7.5 on the rear... if I were to put a 15x8.5 wheel on, it'd stick out about a half or full inch past the wheel well. That's fugly, IMO. So, I'm limited in the width of tires I can have.
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So I was just gonna my regular 18x275x35 street front tires and wheels along with what ever gets chosen for the rear. Is there a problem with that? It was just suggested to me, from a salesman, that it would be an unsteady combo to run. That I really need 4 drag wheels. ?
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If you run a bias ply tire, the radial tire up front will make your car feel like it wants to "float" on you in the rear. It's best to match 4 bias ply tires, or 4 radial tires, but not mixing 2 of each.
more phking money I dont have. Ok I have a friend with silver zr1's that I'm selling my chrome zr1's to. What if I buy a pair of stock zr1's or even a stock 16" z28 wheel for the fronts?Is there a tire I can run on those rims to match up with the QTP? How feasible/stupid is it?
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
more phking money I dont have. Ok I have a friend with silver zr1's that I'm selling my chrome zr1's to. What if I buy a pair of stock zr1's or even a stock 16" z28 wheel for the fronts?Is there a tire I can run on those rims to match up with the QTP? How feasible/stupid is it?
Originally Posted by NWDragRacer
You can run a mix of radial/bias at the track. You just need to be careful and learn a new way to drive them. DON'T try to correct the little back and forth motion that you will feel. Just have faith that it will come back to you without any input. Where people get into trouble - real trouble - is when they try to correct and end up in the wall. Just keep the wheel straight and let the rear have it's little dance.
that sounds kind of scary. Cant I get a cheap bias ply tire for the factory 16 inch rim and be smooth? But what about these rims here: http://www.diamondracingwheels.com/Pro-ChalSeries.htm
Will they clear the brakes? only $69 per wheel and 7" backspace at 20.5 pounds. Too heavy?