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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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F1 easy to drive. A NASCAR driver wins first season out. If they are so easy to drive why do the have such a hard time finding drivers that are competitive? The F1 drivers spend a long time getting there they start with go carts and progress through the various series of open wheel cars. You WILL not find a closed car guy that easily switches to open wheel in any racing series. How many guys are there that raced CART and NASCAR successfully. Not many I assure you. Even fewer went from CART to F1 and were successful.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by raceme@you'dlose.com
F1 easy to drive. A NASCAR driver wins first season out. If they are so easy to drive why do the have such a hard time finding drivers that are competitive? The F1 drivers spend a long time getting there they start with go carts and progress through the various series of open wheel cars. You WILL not find a closed car guy that easily switches to open wheel in any racing series. How many guys are there that raced CART and NASCAR successfully. Not many I assure you. Even fewer went from CART to F1 and were successful.
Correct. In fact i can't remember the last driver to go from ANY other race series into F1 and be successful not counting GP2 (feeder series for F1). It's always the other way around. F1 drivers going to Cart or whatever it's called these days and winning championships some in their very first year. Nigel Mansell anyone. F1 is as demanding off the track as it is on the track and most guys can't cut it. They wash out and look elsewhere to race.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by raceme@you'dlose.com
F1 easy to drive. A NASCAR driver wins first season out. If they are so easy to drive why do the have such a hard time finding drivers that are competitive? The F1 drivers spend a long time getting there they start with go carts and progress through the various series of open wheel cars. You WILL not find a closed car guy that easily switches to open wheel in any racing series. How many guys are there that raced CART and NASCAR successfully. Not many I assure you. Even fewer went from CART to F1 and were successful.

well lets see i believe Tony Stewart a 2 time nascar champ has won in sprint cars, open wheel and everything else he has driven so that comment is way out of text. i commend you two and your position on F1 , if follow the leader is what you like then more power to you.. i just like side by side bumpin and banging racing.. and i dont like premodona drivers that are pampered like the spoiled F1 drivers are.. lets just agree to disagree at this point .
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Correct. In fact i can't remember the last driver to go from ANY other race series into F1 and be successful not counting GP2 (feeder series for F1). It's always the other way around. F1 drivers going to Cart or whatever it's called these days and winning championships some in their very first year. Nigel Mansell anyone. F1 is as demanding off the track as it is on the track and most guys can't cut it. They wash out and look elsewhere to race.

i cant think of any open wheel guy coming to NASCAR and being successful , and i dont count montoyas one win as successfull, hell the F1 series was almost won by Hamilton and i believe he was a rookie , correct me if im wrong on that. both series are quite different, F1 is more advanced NASCAR is 3 times as long a season at 36 races plus all the testing. i cant believe any series being harder on the driver than the 18 straight weeks of races the NASCAR guys went throught this summer.. does F1 even race 18 times in a year , not really sure and dont care.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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Robby Gordon ...

I'm a HUGE NASCAR fan and an even bigger Tony Stewart fan. (I have the die-cast, collectibles and years of cheering for the guy prove it)

But comparing F1 to NASCAR is the most retarded argument to be made in motorsports. I don't feel it's necessary to have to explain why.

NASCAR is the big show for drivers on this side of the water, but it exists in a much different function and lately has turned into more of a realitly TV show complete with drama and multi million dollar sponsors.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Here's the bottom line. The Top Paid F1 Driver last year was Kimi Räikkönen (okay I admit I copy and pasted that! LOL), making $43MM in Salary alone, no Endorsements. Do you REALLY think if the best from NASCAR wouldn't jump ship (I believe Gordon made the most at a very nice $20MM, but not even close to Kimi's $43MM. Bottom line its about money.

If a trained Monkey could drive an F1 car, they wouldn't be spending that kind of dough on Driver Salary.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KTamez
Here's the bottom line. The Top Paid F1 Driver last year was Kimi Räikkönen (okay I admit I copy and pasted that! LOL), making $43MM in Salary alone, no Endorsements. Do you REALLY think if the best from NASCAR wouldn't jump ship (I believe Gordon made the most at a very nice $20MM, but not even close to Kimi's $43MM. Bottom line its about money.

If a trained Monkey could drive an F1 car, they wouldn't be spending that kind of dough on Driver Salary.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Schumacher made 50m a year in salary and another 150m in endorsements. He was the highest paid athlete in any sport in the world before he retired.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tylerb59
Robby Gordon ...

I'm a HUGE NASCAR fan and an even bigger Tony Stewart fan. (I have the die-cast, collectibles and years of cheering for the guy prove it)

But comparing F1 to NASCAR is the most retarded argument to be made in motorsports. I don't feel it's necessary to have to explain why.

NASCAR is the big show for drivers on this side of the water, but it exists in a much different function and lately has turned into more of a realitly TV show complete with drama and multi million dollar sponsors.

The reason for the comparison is easy you have 2 former F1 winning drivers attempting to run NASCAR !!!! i love NASCAR and im a huge Tony fan.. a race car driver is a race car driver, the comparison could never be completely answered until a NASCAR driver attempted F1, with a quality team, since there are only three good teams in F1 that is unlikely to happen. Villenueve did very well and came from indy car.. Michael Andretti never really got a chance with a 2nd or 3rd tier team. Montoya made the jump from indy to F1 so its clear that the best drivers arent all in F1. Stewart showed just as much if not more talent in an Indy car as Montoya did . Stewart even won the Indy car championship. Its just ignorant of anyone to say just because Ferrari decided to over pay an average driver like kimi 4 million that kimi is the best driver. i think Hamiliton has way more skill he just didnt handle the pressure being a rookie. Nascar is the only show on this side of the water and F1 would love to get the American fans to embrace its racing style, it wont happen we love our American style thank you...
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Andretti drove for McLaren before he left with his tale tucked between his legs, not that any of this matters anymore. I respect F1 for what it is and I respect NASCAR for what it is. Enjoy.
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