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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Default Clear coat delaminating: Should I try to sand and shoot some clear?

You can see in the pics, clearcoat is delaminating - shitty collision related repair from last (original) owner. I am considering hitting it with 500/800/1000, then shooting some rattle can clear, probably 5 coats with 1500/2000 in between coats, and then polishing. Think this has a shot of working well enough to buy a year or two? Should I modify this process I have in mind? The whole car needs a repaint, just looking to buy some time as this panel keeps the car from being a nice 50 footer. Thoughts, opinion, and EXPERIENCE welcome. TIA
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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Here's the car from almost 50' and the bad parts you can't see from there. Moron rear ended me at a stop light and the wife got a running start down the driveway and backed into the nose...
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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No one has experience with this? Help a brotha out!
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Old May 4, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Someone...?
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Old May 4, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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Nope sand and repaint.
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rattle can clear? repaint is the only fix.
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repaint is not the only way, however it is the best way. a good quality wetsand would do wonders. here are some pics of what a good detailer can do for paint. This was not done by myself, just a friend that detailed mine.





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the clear is coming off his car its not foggy like yours was.. a detail wont fix his problem
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Yep, clear coming off. My thinking is, if I sand off the clear in that area but don't go through the base coat, I can reclear and feather it in with some aim and sanding. I know what the right fix is but I don't see a reason why this couldn't work for a year or so if I'm careful. What have I got to lose, it's already crappy looking...
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I would leave it alone until you can get it done right. Its not going to look much if amy better after all the work and then you have crappy spray paint on your car that will have to be completely removed prior to the automotive paint that will hopefully be applied one day.
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ma bad, the pics wouldnt load when I was at work. Yea, you could probably make it work for a year, but spend a couple bucks and buy a spray gun.
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Yep, clear coming off. My thinking is, if I sand off the clear in that area but don't go through the base coat, I can reclear and feather it in with some aim and sanding. I know what the right fix is but I don't see a reason why this couldn't work for a year or so if I'm careful. What have I got to lose, it's already crappy looking...


You will never be able to to sand the clear with out sanding through the basecoat. I promise you that. You'll have to feather it backso thin in order to not have any kind of a ridge that you not be able to avoid sanding through the basecoat.

I paint cars for a living at a GM dealership and have been doing so for 10yrs..
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^Thats true. It seems that factory paint is very thin also.
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Your going to have to rebase it also. Rattle can clear is not going to last very long. Spend a little more money and get good material, it will look like its supposed to and it will last alot longer.
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if you are going to fix it then do it right, why would you even want to do it and know that in a year its gonna do the same thing?
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Originally Posted by cvalliere
You will never be able to to sand the clear with out sanding through the basecoat. I promise you that. You'll have to feather it backso thin in order to not have any kind of a ridge that you not be able to avoid sanding through the basecoat.

I paint cars for a living at a GM dealership and have been doing so for 10yrs..
This is what I was looking for, thank you! I have a friend who owns a body shop who will fix me up but it's 4 hours away so that's why a band aid was being considered. It will be done right but it's going to be Christmas time or so before I can get it there and leave it.

Thanks for the feedback, guys!
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