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Spoiler Tip Cracks, 2000 T/A ?

Old 06-18-2019, 11:57 PM
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Default Spoiler Tip Cracks, 2000 T/A ?

So please be patient with me guys, I've owned this car about 12 hours so far!

Is it a common problem to see paint flaws / cracks in the tips of the spoiler? This is not my spoiler, just an example of the area I'm talking about, in the red squares.

There's like cracks, bubbles, flaws on both sides, just in the last 4-5" of the spoiler. It seems mounted to the glass firmly, What would cause that? Is this a known problem?

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Old 06-19-2019, 12:53 AM
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Default Flaws / Cracks in 2000 T/A Spoiler?

So be patient with me guys, I've owned this 2000 T/A about 12 hours so far. LOL

I noticed there's like flaws / cracking / bubbles on both sides of the spoiler, the last 4-5". The

picture is for an example of the areas I'm talking about, marked with the red squares. The tips on both

sides seem firmly mounted to the glass, yet there are these flaws in the paint and spoiler.

Is this a known issue, and if it is, what causes it? I might get the spoiler refinished...


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Anybody?
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Mine cracked. I dont know why, but it wasn't bad enough to bother me
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Were the cracks in the same area as mine was? Thank you!
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I have a 2000 T/A and I believe I have the same bubbles in that area but no cracks...yet. I'll check when I get home.
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Yes, let me know! Would love to understand what causes that in that area.

I don't see where there would be any stress on the corners.

Maybe it's something to do with when the spoilers were made, something gripping them at the corners and contaminating them there?
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It's probably the same thing that causes ripples in the quarter panels. Lack of subframe connectors. I had a 99 WS6 with 200K miles and it was parked in the sun almost everyday because I didn't have a garage and I didn't have any cracks or paint separations in that area. But I also had SFCs so I never had any ripples in my quarters either. But my 99 Camaro does not have SFCs and it has ripples in the quarters from the body flexing/rolling. Just an idea.
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Could be that it's 20ish years old, been out in the elements; sun, weather, etc, and just normal wear and tear of a non-metallic panel that flexes and changes with temperature swings over time. If I remember right, it's two pieces bonded together, so that bond could be coming apart, allowing water to get in there and affect it over time.
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Maybe! I would love to find a reason and post it up here! Lee
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I have cracks on one side in the same area. The car sits outside. The FRP deteriorates over time. I've been told it's a common issue.
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With more thought, I'm wondering if it cracked on the tips because there's less room for expansion and contraction there then other areas of the spoiler, and/or maybe it's more or less hollow/solid in the tips?
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Originally Posted by k3000
With more thought, I'm wondering if it cracked on the tips because there's less room for expansion and contraction there then other areas of the spoiler, and/or maybe it's more or less hollow/solid in the tips?
Hey man. I had forgotten about this thread. I don't know for sure if that's the issue but again just from my experience my WS.6 was never kept in a garage. Outside in the heat of summer, all of the rain, and cold of winter. And I personally never had any cracking there. It was my daily for many years.

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Mine has cracking in that area, also beginning to bubble in the corner over the tail light and flake a bit in a few other spots. 195k miles, outside 90% of its life.
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Thanks guys! I always think I'm the only one that doesn't have the garage space to put the car inside.

I HATE when it's outside in the heat, especially for the interior plastics.

The cold I don't worry about as much, but the heat and the sun are brutal!
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Originally Posted by KissMyTushZ28
It's probably the same thing that causes ripples in the quarter panels. Lack of subframe connectors. I had a 99 WS6 with 200K miles and it was parked in the sun almost everyday because I didn't have a garage and I didn't have any cracks or paint separations in that area. But I also had SFCs so I never had any ripples in my quarters either. But my 99 Camaro does not have SFCs and it has ripples in the quarters from the body flexing/rolling. Just an idea.
Now, when you say buckling in the quarter panel, can you be a bit more specific on the exact location? I have some rippling on top of the rear fender, falter area next to the tail gate/fender body line. Same area where the antenna is.
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Originally Posted by Barn Find CETA
Now, when you say buckling in the quarter panel, can you be a bit more specific on the exact location? I have some rippling on top of the rear fender, falter area next to the tail gate/fender body line. Same area where the antenna is.
I said rippling in the quarter not buckling. And yes, top of the quarter near the antenna area but on both sides.
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Originally Posted by KissMyTushZ28
I said rippling in the quarter not buckling. And yes, top of the quarter near the antenna area but on both sides.
Holly crap!! That’s from the body flexing!!!!! I can’t belief this. I have a app with the PDR guy coming up soon to get those things out of there. I thought it was from some one leaning on the rear quarter with their elbows or something. So, frame connectors fix this problem? Do they have to be welded in to solve it? Or the bolt in ones are good enough? Who ells knows about this? This is the first time I ever heard of this. My mind is blown man.
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Originally Posted by Barn Find CETA
Holly crap!! That’s from the body flexing!!!!! I can’t belief this. I have a app with the PDR guy coming up soon to get those things out of there. I thought it was from some one leaning on the rear quarter with their elbows or something. So, frame connectors fix this problem? Do they have to be welded in to solve it? Or the bolt in ones are good enough? Who ells knows about this? This is the first time I ever heard of this. My mind is blown man.
You can search and find multiple posts about it. But yeah it's a known issue. These are unibody cars, they don't have a frame. So they flex quite a bit. The subframe connectors do eliminate this if installed properly. Weld ins are the only ones worth the money in my opinion. Bolt ins are just for looks or to have something to put a jack on other than the pinch weld. Again just my opinion. As I mentioned previously my WS.6 which had weld-in SFCs installed did not have any quarter panel ripples. But my Z28 which does not have SFCs does have ripples.
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On one side of my car I had two body flex dimples. On the other side I had a really mild ripple.

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