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Bubbling Sail Panel Issue for Dummies
02-14-2011, 04:13 PM
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1) An entire hardtop roof would make shipping around $300, so it would need to be a two piece you put together to be $$$ feasible...
2) We already make a roof panel so all you have to do is buy our t-top sail panel and targa roof panel and then have your body shop fill the seam.
02-15-2011, 11:03 PM
#1562
It is official, THEY ARE FOR SALE AGAIN...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/paint-bod...l#post14510586
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Alright ladies and gentlemen, I promised we would do this and we are... GM screwed us with bubbling sail panels that you have to COMPLETELY replace the roof to fix and then they stopped selling the roof.
SO, we stepped up and are making 1993-2002 F-Body T-Top sail panels in FIBERGLASS...
http://6litereaterdesigns.com/store/...roducts_id=241
AND ALSO CARBON FIBER (no pics of the carbon fiber version for at least two months)...
http://6litereaterdesigns.com/store/...roducts_id=243
We are offering them at an HONEST PRICE as well. We could be jerks and try to make a killing but all I am doing is matching the price GM Parts Direct ($460 for fiberglass) used to sell them for. That gives me about a 10% profit which is fine as I am a small company with no overhead.
GM/Classic Industries used to charge $1100+ for this piece in fiberglass and we're offering a CARBON FIBER VERSION (with a UV clear coat warrantied for ONE YEAR so you don't even have to paint it!) for only $660!!!
I pray you guys/gals appreciate this and step up and order...
Once these are in full production I'll be tacking on $100 as I will NOT be stocking them (so I won't be ordering in groups of 10) and they will COST ME $100 more just because of shipping (getting 10 shipped to our warehouse costs the same as one shipped). Long story short, order now and save $100.
So please, go place an order already
!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/paint-bod...l#post14510586
Repost:
Alright ladies and gentlemen, I promised we would do this and we are... GM screwed us with bubbling sail panels that you have to COMPLETELY replace the roof to fix and then they stopped selling the roof.
SO, we stepped up and are making 1993-2002 F-Body T-Top sail panels in FIBERGLASS...
http://6litereaterdesigns.com/store/...roducts_id=241
AND ALSO CARBON FIBER (no pics of the carbon fiber version for at least two months)...
http://6litereaterdesigns.com/store/...roducts_id=243
We are offering them at an HONEST PRICE as well. We could be jerks and try to make a killing but all I am doing is matching the price GM Parts Direct ($460 for fiberglass) used to sell them for. That gives me about a 10% profit which is fine as I am a small company with no overhead.
GM/Classic Industries used to charge $1100+ for this piece in fiberglass and we're offering a CARBON FIBER VERSION (with a UV clear coat warrantied for ONE YEAR so you don't even have to paint it!) for only $660!!!
I pray you guys/gals appreciate this and step up and order...
Once these are in full production I'll be tacking on $100 as I will NOT be stocking them (so I won't be ordering in groups of 10) and they will COST ME $100 more just because of shipping (getting 10 shipped to our warehouse costs the same as one shipped). Long story short, order now and save $100.
So please, go place an order already
! 
02-17-2011, 09:47 AM
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Yep, it's great to see a sponsor step up and do this. 
I see that the corner pieces (10240164 & 10240165) are still listed as an active item through GMPD. Anyone order them lately? Just wondering if they are actually still available.
I see that the corner pieces (10240164 & 10240165) are still listed as an active item through GMPD. Anyone order them lately? Just wondering if they are actually still available.
02-17-2011, 08:11 PM
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Yes, they are still available. I got them about 3 weeks ag
02-24-2011, 10:49 PM
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Yes, just the t-top, BUT it is because:
1) An entire hardtop roof would make shipping around $300, so it would need to be a two piece you put together to be $$$ feasible...
2) We already make a roof panel so all you have to do is buy our t-top sail panel and targa roof panel and then have your body shop fill the seam.
1) An entire hardtop roof would make shipping around $300, so it would need to be a two piece you put together to be $$$ feasible...
2) We already make a roof panel so all you have to do is buy our t-top sail panel and targa roof panel and then have your body shop fill the seam.
02-25-2011, 03:00 AM
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1) Pull free your weather stripping...
2) UNSCREW THE WEATHER STRIPPING TRACT (there will be a piece that pushes onto the hardtop roof, remove this carefully as well, it is a rain drip rail)...
3) Pull all the old crap off (don't pry from the windshield, lol!)...
4) Clean the glue off...
5) Install the sail panel the way it says on my site and then glue down the targa roof using the same adhesive as recommended for the sail panel.
6) Have a shop fill in the body seam (fiberglass would be best) between the sail and targa...
7) Prep, paint.
8) Re-install weather stripping channel (and rain drip rail to the targa) and ws.
02-25-2011, 08:54 AM
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I just saw this thread (been busy modding my new BMW instead of the T/A 
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This is great you made this happen! I don't have the bubbling problem on my 2000 T/A yet with 34k on it - but I may buy one of these anyway to have 'just in case'...
)This is great you made this happen! I don't have the bubbling problem on my 2000 T/A yet with 34k on it - but I may buy one of these anyway to have 'just in case'...
03-08-2011, 02:25 AM
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I just bought my Z28 and it has the bubbling on the roof also! Is the General still fixing this issue or do I just need to get a new paint job?
Edit: I just read several pages and now same question but wheres a good shop in Dallas/Fort Worth if the General refuses??
Edit: I just read several pages and now same question but wheres a good shop in Dallas/Fort Worth if the General refuses??
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03-08-2011, 08:51 AM
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Nope, he's not making a hardtop. The part number is essentially useless since GM no longer produces or stocks the part, but it is 10253596.
03-08-2011, 09:44 AM
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Your best bet is to either make friends with a body man who has access to the proper tools to remove the glue holding the roof onto the frame from a donor 93-97 car, or take a portable sawzall to a pick-a-part yard and cut the metal roof frame off and then remove the metal frame at home at your leisure with a cut off wheel. My local yard has a few 93-97 F-Bods in their yard and they'll let me cut off the roof and have it for $50. I just need to find the time to run down there and do it.
I'm sure that one day someone will make a hardtop piece as well, we're just in that gap between when the factory stops making things and the aftermarket starts. Someone will soon realize that there is a lot of money to made by GM's screw up. 6LE is helping out a ton with offering the T-Top panel, but he's still (for all intents and purposes) a "little guy" in the industry. He's a devoted F-Body lover who has the ability to fill in a little bit for what we're currently lacking. One day a larger corporation will probably get their head out of their butt and start making a killing on both panels.
I'm sure that one day someone will make a hardtop piece as well, we're just in that gap between when the factory stops making things and the aftermarket starts. Someone will soon realize that there is a lot of money to made by GM's screw up. 6LE is helping out a ton with offering the T-Top panel, but he's still (for all intents and purposes) a "little guy" in the industry. He's a devoted F-Body lover who has the ability to fill in a little bit for what we're currently lacking. One day a larger corporation will probably get their head out of their butt and start making a killing on both panels.
03-08-2011, 09:35 PM
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I believe that 6LE (sponsor making the new sail panels) mentioned that you can use his targa panel in addition to the new sail panel and have a body shop fill the gap. This is the only current solution if you want to use "new" parts.
Or you can go the donor route, as mentioned above. Any 4th gen built through March of 1998 should be fine as a donor. Anything built later than that is risky.
Or you can go the donor route, as mentioned above. Any 4th gen built through March of 1998 should be fine as a donor. Anything built later than that is risky.
