CETA Bumper: A How To
04-06-2009, 11:34 PM
#101
On The Tree
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: College Station/Celina, Texas
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sorry for pulling this out of the bottom of the bag, but im wainting to do this, and i noticed in the write i didnt see if you said if it was necesary to roughin up the paint with sand paper or something before priming/painting? i may have missed it somewhere sorry if i did
04-11-2009, 05:32 PM
#102
Staging Lane
Join Date: May 2007
Location: houston, Texas
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
[QUOTE=kraaazymike;4934872]
Step 2: Preping the bumper
You need to sand rough the area to be painted with your coarser sandpaper. Not all the way down to the plastic, but just enough to get the surface rough. The idea is to give the primer a surface to stick to.
So I have started the sanding of the bumper, but I am confused on how deep to go. I know I need to get through the clear coat, but do I need to get through the original paint and down to the old primer or what?
Step 2: Preping the bumper
You need to sand rough the area to be painted with your coarser sandpaper. Not all the way down to the plastic, but just enough to get the surface rough. The idea is to give the primer a surface to stick to.
So I have started the sanding of the bumper, but I am confused on how deep to go. I know I need to get through the clear coat, but do I need to get through the original paint and down to the old primer or what?
04-20-2009, 10:26 AM
#104
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Dallas
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
[QUOTE=ws6onSLICKS;11412907] actualy, you do not want to even go through the clear coat. the only thing you are doing is ruffing it up. just run it over and make it rough, do not go all way down to the paint. i just did this and will post pix tonight!
Step 2: Preping the bumper
You need to sand rough the area to be painted with your coarser sandpaper. Not all the way down to the plastic, but just enough to get the surface rough. The idea is to give the primer a surface to stick to.
So I have started the sanding of the bumper, but I am confused on how deep to go. I know I need to get through the clear coat, but do I need to get through the original paint and down to the old primer or what?
You need to sand rough the area to be painted with your coarser sandpaper. Not all the way down to the plastic, but just enough to get the surface rough. The idea is to give the primer a surface to stick to.
So I have started the sanding of the bumper, but I am confused on how deep to go. I know I need to get through the clear coat, but do I need to get through the original paint and down to the old primer or what?
07-14-2009, 01:38 PM
#107
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (9)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: san jose, ca
Posts: 505
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
sorry to bring up an older thred but i just did mine and some how screwed it up,
i followed the write up and everything went good even the primer, but i think the paint fucked up..... there are lines in the paint!!!!!!!!!
so what kind of paint should i use????? ill def be redoing this
i followed the write up and everything went good even the primer, but i think the paint fucked up..... there are lines in the paint!!!!!!!!!
so what kind of paint should i use????? ill def be redoing this
07-18-2009, 07:48 PM
#108
Teching In
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I am using U-POL for a few applications including the CETA bumper. It seems to be giving me great results. It is quite a bit more expensive than other brands but seems to be worth it. You can get it at tcpglobal.com.
I am using their Black Gloss and High Gloss Clear on my side door molding. Looks great so far. Came out way better this time than when I used the cheaper stuff. The Clear Coat Gloss is amazing. My side molding matches the fenders and qtr panel pieces that came prepainted. And I had to do this twice-so I am sold on U-POL.
For the CETA bumper I bought the Dark Gray High Build Primer and the Satin Black. The spray on this is far more intense/pressurized than other cheaper brands. Just my opinon. I have been doing alot of painting and I notice a difference.
I am using their Black Gloss and High Gloss Clear on my side door molding. Looks great so far. Came out way better this time than when I used the cheaper stuff. The Clear Coat Gloss is amazing. My side molding matches the fenders and qtr panel pieces that came prepainted. And I had to do this twice-so I am sold on U-POL.
For the CETA bumper I bought the Dark Gray High Build Primer and the Satin Black. The spray on this is far more intense/pressurized than other cheaper brands. Just my opinon. I have been doing alot of painting and I notice a difference.
07-19-2009, 01:18 AM
#110
Teching In
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have not done the CETA yet. I am doing it nexyt weekend. OK got alot of help from NHRA-TRANS-AM.
So I bought ramps; and, I am backing the car up on these HEavy Duty Service ramps with 15 inch extenders. That gives me enough clearance to do this withour removing the bumper.
I have blue painters tape. I am using 3M tape Masking Film to mask off the rear of the car and the exhaust. I have these canvas covers for the wheels to protect them from overspray. I have wet sanded that part of the bumper with 1500 grit sanding block. Then using the Dark Gray High Build U-POL primer(the slightly lighter primer should make it easy for me to see I have complete coverage with the paint)-then will wet sand it with 1500-2000 grit sanding blocks (usibg blocks to avoid pressure poits in the sanding). Then using the Satin Black U-POL paint. I am not going to clear coat-to avoid gloss-and decided against semi-gloss paint because of the highs and lows I could get.
I will take some pucs and post when I get it done...BUT I REALLY REALLY REALLY THINK that U-POL will make a big difference...and thew accelerant-well it is like a spray gun...the action of the accelerant mimics a spray gun...so the spray is nice and fine...no globs-blobs-runs...I really think it will make a difference.
Well, I hope it works as well as I anticipate...took alot of plannng and alot of research about paint and sanding and technique...and alot of detailed information from posts up here on LS1tech and from NHRA-Trans-Am to get ready to do this....NOW I AM CONFIDENT IT WILL BE GREAT
So I bought ramps; and, I am backing the car up on these HEavy Duty Service ramps with 15 inch extenders. That gives me enough clearance to do this withour removing the bumper.
I have blue painters tape. I am using 3M tape Masking Film to mask off the rear of the car and the exhaust. I have these canvas covers for the wheels to protect them from overspray. I have wet sanded that part of the bumper with 1500 grit sanding block. Then using the Dark Gray High Build U-POL primer(the slightly lighter primer should make it easy for me to see I have complete coverage with the paint)-then will wet sand it with 1500-2000 grit sanding blocks (usibg blocks to avoid pressure poits in the sanding). Then using the Satin Black U-POL paint. I am not going to clear coat-to avoid gloss-and decided against semi-gloss paint because of the highs and lows I could get.
I will take some pucs and post when I get it done...BUT I REALLY REALLY REALLY THINK that U-POL will make a big difference...and thew accelerant-well it is like a spray gun...the action of the accelerant mimics a spray gun...so the spray is nice and fine...no globs-blobs-runs...I really think it will make a difference.
Well, I hope it works as well as I anticipate...took alot of plannng and alot of research about paint and sanding and technique...and alot of detailed information from posts up here on LS1tech and from NHRA-Trans-Am to get ready to do this....NOW I AM CONFIDENT IT WILL BE GREAT
12-03-2009, 04:24 AM
#111
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i'm about to do this but have a couple questions....
1. the 'barbed' clips... sounds like the ones that always come apart when i take them out, will i need to buy more? if so, which ones?
2. as has been asked before, what paint? i don't have access to a spray gun, so is there a good rattle can? (whats the one mentioned, from home depot)
1. the 'barbed' clips... sounds like the ones that always come apart when i take them out, will i need to buy more? if so, which ones?
2. as has been asked before, what paint? i don't have access to a spray gun, so is there a good rattle can? (whats the one mentioned, from home depot)
12-03-2009, 10:33 AM
#112
Teching In
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i'm about to do this but have a couple questions....
1. the 'barbed' clips... sounds like the ones that always come apart when i take them out, will i need to buy more? if so, which ones?
2. as has been asked before, what paint? i don't have access to a spray gun, so is there a good rattle can? (whats the one mentioned, from home depot)
1. the 'barbed' clips... sounds like the ones that always come apart when i take them out, will i need to buy more? if so, which ones?
2. as has been asked before, what paint? i don't have access to a spray gun, so is there a good rattle can? (whats the one mentioned, from home depot)
Go to their specialty screws/fittings section. Look at the drawers they have. There are some red drawers with Specialty Automotive (the writing is in Spanish). They have a huge selection of Barbed Fittings for various vehicles. They are labeled, GM, Ford, Nissan, etcc... .
Just bring in the one you broke and match it up. The one you need is the medium size (if you look at what they have). It is not critical that you get an exact match. All of them will fit those holes under the bumper (look at the barbed end of the fitting-same diameters different depths/lengths). I found that out because I used one with a smaller head and it fit just fine
O'Reilley's (AKA-All O'Reilley's in Illinois are called Murrays-They answer the phone O'reilley's sign says Murrays) have Duplicolor. I like the Semi Gloss.
IMO, the very best paint I have ever used is U-POL. They have the very best High Gloss I have vber used. You can buy U-POL at tcpglobal.com. IMO best place to order spray paint from because I have never received a bad can, they specialize in automotive paint and supplies, and they have excellent customer service/support.
12-04-2009, 11:03 AM
#113
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Barbed Fittings: I discovered, quite by accident, that you can buy them in packages of 2 at LOWE's.
Go to their specialty screws/fittings section. Look at the drawers they have. There are some red drawers with Specialty Automotive (the writing is in Spanish). They have a huge selection of Barbed Fittings for various vehicles. They are labeled, GM, Ford, Nissan, etcc... .
Just bring in the one you broke and match it up. The one you need is the medium size (if you look at what they have). It is not critical that you get an exact match. All of them will fit those holes under the bumper (look at the barbed end of the fitting-same diameters different depths/lengths). I found that out because I used one with a smaller head and it fit just fine
O'Reilley's (AKA-All O'Reilley's in Illinois are called Murrays-They answer the phone O'reilley's sign says Murrays) have Duplicolor. I like the Semi Gloss.
IMO, the very best paint I have ever used is U-POL. They have the very best High Gloss I have vber used. You can buy U-POL at tcpglobal.com. IMO best place to order spray paint from because I have never received a bad can, they specialize in automotive paint and supplies, and they have excellent customer service/support.
Go to their specialty screws/fittings section. Look at the drawers they have. There are some red drawers with Specialty Automotive (the writing is in Spanish). They have a huge selection of Barbed Fittings for various vehicles. They are labeled, GM, Ford, Nissan, etcc... .
Just bring in the one you broke and match it up. The one you need is the medium size (if you look at what they have). It is not critical that you get an exact match. All of them will fit those holes under the bumper (look at the barbed end of the fitting-same diameters different depths/lengths). I found that out because I used one with a smaller head and it fit just fine
O'Reilley's (AKA-All O'Reilley's in Illinois are called Murrays-They answer the phone O'reilley's sign says Murrays) have Duplicolor. I like the Semi Gloss.
IMO, the very best paint I have ever used is U-POL. They have the very best High Gloss I have vber used. You can buy U-POL at tcpglobal.com. IMO best place to order spray paint from because I have never received a bad can, they specialize in automotive paint and supplies, and they have excellent customer service/support.
EDIT: found the paint from u-pol's site.... how many cans would i need for this?
Last edited by pheer; 12-04-2009 at 11:14 AM.
12-04-2009, 05:42 PM
#114
Teching In
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
http://www.autobodystore.com/ms5.shtml
Oh and I guess I misnderstood your question. i thought you were looking for cans of spray paint. That is why I recommended TCPGlobal. MY BAD
12-06-2009, 10:21 AM
#115
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (9)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: san jose, ca
Posts: 505
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i used krylon semi gloss, and it came out great.
its been said time and time again, ITS ALL IN THE PREP AND SANDING take your time sanding it smooth with no rough spots.
its been said time and time again, ITS ALL IN THE PREP AND SANDING take your time sanding it smooth with no rough spots.
12-06-2009, 02:53 PM
#116
Teching In
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by pheer
all i can find on tcp is cans for spray-guns.... i can't seem to find any rattle cans for anything aside from primer...
EDIT: found the paint from u-pol's site.... how many cans would i need for this?
I am so sorry, hvae been distracted last few days. I just saw your edit. Just read your edit. Glad you found the paint on their site. And I highly recommend them.
Buy 2 large cans (12 oz) just to be sure. You will probably use 3/4 of a can. If you are going to use small Duplicolor cans (5-6 oz) get 3; but, you will not use it all.
It is always a good idea to get a little more than you need in case you have to do it twice like I did
all i can find on tcp is cans for spray-guns.... i can't seem to find any rattle cans for anything aside from primer...
EDIT: found the paint from u-pol's site.... how many cans would i need for this?
I am so sorry, hvae been distracted last few days. I just saw your edit. Just read your edit. Glad you found the paint on their site. And I highly recommend them.
Buy 2 large cans (12 oz) just to be sure. You will probably use 3/4 of a can. If you are going to use small Duplicolor cans (5-6 oz) get 3; but, you will not use it all.
It is always a good idea to get a little more than you need in case you have to do it twice like I did
12-30-2009, 05:44 PM
#120
Teching In
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Personally I prefer the semi-gloss for my TA. It matches the finish on my SS with black center etch ovelays...Also, I removed my side molding and replaced it with high gloss black...so that is enough gloss on the car...It is kind of a matter of balance.