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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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OK, I understand you wanting to stick with the true mid engine transaxle. I thought you wanted other ideas to consider so I was thinking of those for you. Maybe you can find a used one somewhere on the internet? I have no idea where, but if you search for a while im sure its possible.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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Brilliant idea! I say go for it.... Would be the most unique thing ever done to a Firebird IMO
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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OK, I understand you wanting to stick with the true mid engine transaxle. I thought you wanted other ideas to consider so I was thinking of those for you. Maybe you can find a used one somewhere on the internet? I have no idea where, but if you search for a while im sure its possible.
No, I'm exploring all options.

V drives are super expensive at $4k. Did you see the latest thought? Using the T56 and mounting a transfer case up front.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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No, I'm exploring all options.

V drives are super expensive at $4k. Did you see the latest thought? Using the T56 and mounting a transfer case up front.
Yeah i realized they were so expensive after i posted that. I think the t56 with the transfer case is a good idea. Im wondering what is the total length of the ls1 and t56 combo, and how much longer it would be with a transfer case.

If you do this you are going to put the differencial right behind the balancer right? Where about will this put the back of the transfer case? You will probably need to raise it up to keep your ground clearance, especially with the clocking of the transfer case.

Just got another idea. If you move the rear wheels back, what is the distance between the back of the front seats and the rear wheels? could you possibly fit the engine and trans combo in there directly coupled directly to an independant rearend? Or flip the rear end over and do the same with the transmission over the rearend and the transfer case behind it?
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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Yeah i realized they were so expensive after i posted that. I think the t56 with the transfer case is a good idea. Im wondering what is the total length of the ls1 and t56 combo, and how much longer it would be with a transfer case.

If you do this you are going to put the differencial right behind the balancer right? Where about will this put the back of the transfer case? You will probably need to raise it up to keep your ground clearance, especially with the clocking of the transfer case.

Just got another idea. If you move the rear wheels back, what is the distance between the back of the front seats and the rear wheels? could you possibly fit the engine and trans combo in there directly coupled directly to an independant rearend? Or flip the rear end over and do the same with the transmission over the rearend and the transfer case behind it?
Wrong thread. Lets keep drivetrain stuff on the other thread. In this thread I just want to focus on making the car low ----- and look good doing it.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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You sir are one crazy man! i like your thinking and imagination. I cant wait to see what you actually decide to do!
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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im not reading through all of this but wouldnt it be way easier and obtain the same look if you just uni-bodydropped it then chopped the top. just a suggestion. it would save you tons of body work. and lots of time.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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im not reading through all of this but wouldnt it be way easier and obtain the same look if you just uni-bodydropped it then chopped the top. just a suggestion. it would save you tons of body work. and lots of time.
What's your definition of "uni-bodydropped"?

I'm doing it the only way I know how. Due to the complexity of the body shape, the only parts you can slice off is the top and the bottom. That's what I'm doing.

I'm not doing much body work right now, so how would it save me time?
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What's your definition of "uni-bodydropped"?

I'm doing it the only way I know how. Due to the complexity of the body shape, the only parts you can slice off is the top and the bottom. That's what I'm doing.

I'm not doing much body work right now, so how would it save me time?
raise or cut out the side of the shock tower to let the upper control arm move upward more. also move the shock tower around to allow more drop and camber. here are some pictures of my buddy ropers car. it lays the floor pan. this car was no trailor queen it had over 2xx,xxx miles on it and drove it all over the east coast. here is his car domain. i just posted some highlights
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then in the back cut it out and c-notch it just like a truck. then you could utilize a fuel cell. and still keep the factory look.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Man, I'm so beyond that. He just barely touched his car.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Man, I'm so beyond that. He just barely touched his car.
lol. i doubt that that particular car started out life as two completly different cars. and its been redone completly from top to bottom atleast 4 times.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AzzBustin30th
lol. i doubt that that particular car started out life as two completly different cars. and its been redone completly from top to bottom atleast 4 times.
Try this: Full tube chassis, section about 3" from bottom of car, build all new floor panels, mount LS1 and T56 in back of car for mid engine design, build all new suspension front and rear, then build a removable hardtop that is chopped down along with the front winshield. It really wouldn't be that much harder to make it AWD as well. Plus the air supension of course.

I'm just looking for a donor car so I can cut it all up. I think the only actual TA parts I'll be using are the doors, tail lights, rear bumper cover, seats and dash with A/C, some of the firewall and most of the door jambs. Maybe the rear fenders, I haven't decided yet. Of course the engine and maybe the trans. So it should be a cool project and keep me busy for a long time.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Looks like the next Batmobile!!!
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
It's to the trans am what the gallardo is to the murcielago. It's like 7/8 the scale.

Now if the weight follwed suit and you had a trans am that was 7/8 the weight, that would be fantastic considering a stock trans am is roughly 3450lbs, that would make the smaller version roughly 3000lbs, and then you could lighten it even more. Hmmm, sounds like corvette proportions.
Looking good! I thought I read you were considering adding IRS? Could the GTO IRS set-up work? Don't know the specs, but how about the IRS from the new camaro?
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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Looking good! I thought I read you were considering adding IRS? Could the GTO IRS set-up work? Don't know the specs, but how about the IRS from the new camaro?
I already have a cheap and strong IRS setup planned, but I want to take things to a whole notha level.
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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I finally found another vehicle 40" high. Remember that my roof will be 39"-40" at ride height, also. Compare it with the people next to it. Now imagine a pitch black, swoopy looking Trans Am the same height.



It's called Vancake, BTW, and was built in 5 days.

Since so many folks here, and my family as well, sometimes call my TA the Batmobile I figured I show this car. It's called the Flatmobile and was designed to take the World Record back for the lowest car. It is 19" tall and has a real jet engine for power.



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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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Since we talking about super low cars, here is the previous record holder at 22" tall. It's called Flatout and was built by Andy Saunders, the same guy that did the above van.


Here it is painted silver:
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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Another low car. This one is called the Vampyre and I took the pics at the 07 Autorama here in Houston. I like how they make the nose low without using smaller tires. Just go through the hood!




Another low car I liked:


This is the Blowfish. It ran 271mph!



I still think my design is going to look the best. You have to start with a car that has good lines, then just go a little further with it.

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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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freaking go for it. looks awesome
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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I'm reminded of this rare picture of the 1990 Pontiac Sunfire Sport Coupe prototype.
(I lowered the roof slightly and erased the rear door)
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