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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Alright guys I am about to kill my car. I have be trying to figure out a good tune for it and cant seem to get rid of one problem. I have based most of my tune off of a 05 gto that has similiar mods and was tuned by a pro and runs great. I have a 99 z28 and I can not get it to stop bucking and jerking. It is awful at 1500rpms and bucks and jerks when I give it gas. My only solution so far has been to just give it gas and keep it about 2k rpm.

What I am doing wrong here? Should I be looking at something in particular since it seems to be a issue with giving it gas? please any help or guidance on what I should look at changing to help tame this crazy car.

Also I am using hptuners.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Look at the narrowband O2s and see if bucking is
coming on from a lean condition? If so then you have
something to chase down - why.

If you deleted EGR, take a look at the spark adder
for EGR; is bucking coming with a high advance?
Higher than the main spark table says for RPM and
g/cyl air mass?

GTO will have some differences from your motor
and you might want to spend some time getting a
list together. Different MAF? Different displacement?
Something has to account for suck vs great.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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What are your cam specs? Just curious.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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specs I believe are 226/237 110lsa at .550 lift.

Swaped on my aftermarket maf and it helped alittle. Seems like I am not getting enough air. Def gonna check into the egr thing.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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I hvae the same issue after I swapped cams. Bucking under 1500rpm...I think I might have too much timing, been too lazy to look at it lately. Will try tonight though to lower the timing in my HO timing table.
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When it is doing the bucking spark is going from around 22 to 29 and just bounces all over within that range. Just a jagged line on the tuners. Map pressure is usually around 45 also.
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Are you idling with your foot off the gas or are you seeing this below 1500rpm when giving it throttle?
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It does it when I dont have my foot on the throttle. Also when I give it gas such as in third gear doing 25mpg at 1300-1500 rpm it bucks like crazy untill I get around 2k rpm
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Sounds like exactly what I'm going through. I'm really thinking it's a timing issue. I'm home now and I'm gonna go screw around a little pretty soon here.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Maybe post a tune and a log?
Could be RAF, could be timing.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:31 AM
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Fixed my problems last night by doing two things:

A. Adding advance in those cells
B. Reducing the transition of timing between cells in that area. I had a transition of 4 degrees between 1400 and 1600rpm.
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