Car runs for 2 secs & shuts down
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Here's the run down, I just turbo'd my car, swapped to a HPT 3 bar OS, installed Seimens Deka 55# low Z injectors, installed acceleronics versa fueler injector driver, new TR6 plugs, & FAST 3 bar MAP & adapter harness. I had Bill @ HPT look at the tune and I trust him implictly, he said the tune seems to be all in order. Now I'm starting to look at my PCM, the injector driver, and maybe the oil level sensor in the pan. Sometimes the car will run for a little longer but if I step on the accelerator at all it dies. I have been pullingmy hair out trying to figure this out and come up empty handed. Anyone deal with this problem before, or can point me in the right direction?
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Installed a dynotune digital fuel pressure guage for the turbo, fuel pressure was in the 60# range the whole time. Even when it died the fuel pressure was right at 50psi. Thank you though for the suggestion, I need all the input I can get right now.
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I think I may have figured it out, I made a log and the map sensor is supposed to read about 100 KPA with the key on and engine not running, mine reads o. Now I just need someone to back my theory up and try to test the map sensor in some way.
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My big thing is the MAP reading now. With the key on & engine NOT running it should read 14.5psi = 100KPA, mine reads 0 psi until I try to crank it & then it goes 4 psi and stays there (i guess because there is still vaccum in the system).
I need to know how to test the map sensor so I can rule it out or get a new one.
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Check the MAF DTCs. If they are set to 3-No Error Reported it will do this. If that is the case just set it back to 2-No MIL Light and make sure the SES enable box isn't checked.
They appear to be fine in the file he posted on our forum...its actually the first thing I checked. Nothing in the file itself looked odd.
I asked Bill about this and he said it could be possible but very unlikley. And since then I have gotten it to run for about 10 seconds.
My big thing is the MAP reading now. With the key on & engine NOT running it should read 14.5psi = 100KPA, mine reads 0 psi until I try to crank it & then it goes 4 psi and stays there (i guess because there is still vaccum in the system).
I need to know how to test the map sensor so I can rule it out or get a new one.
My big thing is the MAP reading now. With the key on & engine NOT running it should read 14.5psi = 100KPA, mine reads 0 psi until I try to crank it & then it goes 4 psi and stays there (i guess because there is still vaccum in the system).
I need to know how to test the map sensor so I can rule it out or get a new one.
I saw "Bill@..." and I skipped right over the HPT just thinking it was a local shop or something.
my 3 bar used to read 0 until i started the car then it read correctly, i was using a normal GM 3 bar sensor..
i would say it is a vats problem, just disable it in the tune and see if the problem goes away
i would say it is a vats problem, just disable it in the tune and see if the problem goes away
Like has been said before it should run for 10 seconds if it is VATS related but it's almost to easy to not check it out. According to the tune he posted on the HPT forum it is still active.
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Thanks everyone for the replies, I havent turned VATS off or relinked it yet. I know its unlikely that it could be stopping the car from running but I'll try anything at this point.
I also decided that my problem may lie in the injector driver so I e-mailed tech @ acceleronics and this is what they had to say.
Usually when I have a problem like this its something I have done wrong, all I have to do is talk to Bill from HPT & he steps in and saves the day. I wish this was one of those times
I also decided that my problem may lie in the injector driver so I e-mailed tech @ acceleronics and this is what they had to say.
The VersaFueler is very easy to troubleshoot because it either works perfectly, or not at all. The ECM still controls injector pulsewidths, all the box does is convert the ECU signal into the type that can drive low impedance injectors. If the box had failed, the affected cylinders would never get any fuel.
It sounds to me as though you have either a MAF problem or a VATS problem. The fact that the engine starts with the VersaFueler means that the box is working. I had another customer chasing the same symptoms – his ended up being a problem with the ignition key.
Jeff
It sounds to me as though you have either a MAF problem or a VATS problem. The fact that the engine starts with the VersaFueler means that the box is working. I had another customer chasing the same symptoms – his ended up being a problem with the ignition key.
Jeff

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I dont have any logs of the thimes it ran 10 sec but here's a log of a short 2 sec start up. I have a fuel pressure guage and by the time the car dies it still has about 49 psi @ the rail. BTW how do I disable the VATS?
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It's on the system tab, under security. Just take it from PWM to none.
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