question about tuning software
question about tuning software im finally happy with the bolt ons i have aquired so i figured its time to bite the bullet and get it tuned. rather then taking it somewhere to do this im going to purchase some tuning software
question is im not too familiar with them. ive read the stickies and i dont want this to be a HPTunes vs. ls1edit vs. efilive thread. i just want to hear your input on which one you feel is bette AND LEAVE A REASON WHY ITS BETTER THEN THE OTHER. i want to see what software has a feature that another doesnt, or which one is the most user friendly.
im also curious to see which one has better forum supper, ie, if i have a question about my tune, i can get on their forum and ask for help
question is im not too familiar with them. ive read the stickies and i dont want this to be a HPTunes vs. ls1edit vs. efilive thread. i just want to hear your input on which one you feel is bette AND LEAVE A REASON WHY ITS BETTER THEN THE OTHER. i want to see what software has a feature that another doesnt, or which one is the most user friendly.
im also curious to see which one has better forum supper, ie, if i have a question about my tune, i can get on their forum and ask for help
I think you can go on to both EFILive and HPTuners sites and do a free trial of each to see which you like better. Also from what I've found, they can both do pretty much anything you need them to and are both fairly user friendly. I went with HPtuners because it is cheaper and I got a good package deal with a wideband. Also I like HPT's licencing method better.
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Wonder how long before the moderaters shut this thread down????
Mike
They probably wont because its a tech guy asking other tech guys how they feel about the software they own. Im not trying to bash a sponsor or a product, just getting opinions.
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There are literally hundreds if not thousands of differences between the two programs & their hardware...starting with pricing, to tables offered, to supported vehicles, to features, etc.
The opinions you will get will likely be extremely biased one way or the other and unfortunately won't help you with your purchase.
However you are more than welcome to join our user help forum that now as over 12,000 members and ask any specific questions regarding our product as I will be more than happy to answer them.
Bill
The opinions you will get will likely be extremely biased one way or the other and unfortunately won't help you with your purchase.
However you are more than welcome to join our user help forum that now as over 12,000 members and ask any specific questions regarding our product as I will be more than happy to answer them.
Bill
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Get the pro HTP software. You can log a wideband O2 sensor with. If you tune you need a wideband. By the way HPT and EFI are about the same. The interface is differant so it is hard to go back and forth.
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I use EFILive mainly because HPTuners did not have a demo on their site so I could 'play' with the program prior to purchasing. I do know they have screen shots, ETC of their program, but that is not the same as actually using it.It's kinda like wanting to buy a new car but not being able to test drive it before purchasing it. Also, they did not have the firing order selection avaliable at the time I was purchasing a tuning program (I know they do now though). I own V2 of EFILive and have been very happy with it's performance and the way the program navigates. HPTuners users say that their program navigates easier, but I could not tell you as I have never used their program. Either program does the same job, both have very good websites and forums, I have used both. I am going to say though that the 12,000 + members of the HPTuners forum is a little inflated, as they require you to register with their forum in order to unlock/register your software, so their are not 12,000 + people browsing the forums waiting for your questions 
Again, I use EFILive, but both programs will do what you need to do I am sure, boils down to which one you like better!!!
Mike
Again, I use EFILive, but both programs will do what you need to do I am sure, boils down to which one you like better!!!
Mike
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I have EFI LIVE and have a mates HPTuners on hand too. I started with EFI LIVE so I prefer the tree structure of the menus a lot better. But I can see how the HPT interface could attract the novice. The hardware interface is clearly superior for EFI LIVE. You can scan and see the data on the LCD screen so you dont need a laptop all the time and save hundreds upon hundreds of hours of data to an SD card. The EFI LIVE custom OS's are free and some of the main things I use in OS5 for example is IAT/VE correction and Semi Open Loop Fueling which alters the main fueling table to be MAP/RPM instead of the pretty much useless MAP/ECT. This table alone is very useful for the US guys as you can run a lean cruise with it. HPT doesn't have either of those tables FYI.
EFI LIVE will also be releasing (im told in the next week or two) standalone reading and flashing of tunes. This means you can use a SD card and just pull tunes out of cars without a laptop.
The one thing I do like about HPTuners is the RTT os. Its not as good as EFI LIVE and a Road Runner as with that you can change anything and it sticks for good like automatically tuning VE without any user input (very cool). But RTT is handy for tuning timing on the road. But then again if I'm just tweaking timing a little bit on the road EFI LIVE's DVT controls with the ability to add or subtract total or Delta timing while driving is fine for me in most cases.
EFI LIVE will also be releasing (im told in the next week or two) standalone reading and flashing of tunes. This means you can use a SD card and just pull tunes out of cars without a laptop.
The one thing I do like about HPTuners is the RTT os. Its not as good as EFI LIVE and a Road Runner as with that you can change anything and it sticks for good like automatically tuning VE without any user input (very cool). But RTT is handy for tuning timing on the road. But then again if I'm just tweaking timing a little bit on the road EFI LIVE's DVT controls with the ability to add or subtract total or Delta timing while driving is fine for me in most cases.
I have both HP Tuners and EFI Live in my shop and have used both on plenty of cars. Considering the vehicle you're looking to tune, I prefer HP Tuners for its well-thought-out menu structure (very easy to use for beginners as well as pros) and the ease of using and setting up the data-logging functions. The support is immediate when you encounter a problem (which rarely happens with either software platform), and you can imagine how important that is to someone who pays his mortgage this way. Both EFI Live and HP Tuners are great, but I don't think you have a better choice than HP Tuners (especially if you're new to tuning) for the above reasons, and it's cheaper. What more can you ask?
Our customers do not need to sign up on our forum(many do not) as to get started all they really need to do is login to their customer login page at www.hptuners.com which is a completely separate entity from our forum and unrelated in every way.
-Bill
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Mike