HP Tuner Vs. EFI Live
#63
As of two days ago EFILive posted firmware for standalone flashing...
I've been trying this on my 2001 Trans Am and it's working great, takes about 23 seconds to do a standalone flash...
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Standalone support for FlashScan V2 as of March 30, 2010 ECU Description Logging Reading Flashing LS1A LS1 97/98 Yes Yes Yes LS1B LS1 99-08 Yes Yes Yes E40 E40 Yes Yes Yes T42 T42 4/5spd Yes Yes Yes E38 E38 Yes Yes Yes T43 T43 6Spd Yes Yes Yes E67 E67 Yes Yes Yes E37 E37 Yes Yes + E39 E39 Yes Yes + P10 Inline6 Yes Yes Yes V6B V6 Yes Yes + V6C V6 Yes Yes + L31 Vortec Yes Yes + LB7 Duramax Yes Yes Yes LLY Duramax Yes Yes Yes AL5 Allison 5spd Yes Yes + LBZ Duramax Yes Yes + LMM Duramax Yes Yes + AL6 Allison 6spd Yes Yes + A50 Allison 6spd 09+ Yes Yes + CMNB Cummins * * + CMNC Cummins * * + +Coming Soon, under development *Not officially supported yet
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#64
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You read the calibration from the car, take it to a PC, use the tunetool to edit the calibration, and take it to the car and flash it in...
Then after that, you log (no laptop), take the log to a PC, use the scantool to view it, use the tunetool to edit the calibration (which is already on that PC), and take it to the car and flash it in.
#66
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Also, the customer can log data on their own, email it to us, and we can make changes to the cal based on the data, email it back and they load it into the car.
It will be a cheaper route for people to have multiple tunes with stand alone loggin capabilities.
#68
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I understand the multiple tune part but the scenario below is not worth it, if you are tuning and going back and forth to tune, reload etc. you may as well have the laptop hooked up and just get the tune done.
Standalone flashing means you do not have to bring a laptop/PC to the car, the laptop/PC stays safely at your office/home...
You read the calibration from the car, take it to a PC, use the tunetool to edit the calibration, and take it to the car and flash it in...
Then after that, you log (no laptop), take the log to a PC, use the scantool to view it, use the tunetool to edit the calibration (which is already on that PC), and take it to the car and flash it in.
You read the calibration from the car, take it to a PC, use the tunetool to edit the calibration, and take it to the car and flash it in...
Then after that, you log (no laptop), take the log to a PC, use the scantool to view it, use the tunetool to edit the calibration (which is already on that PC), and take it to the car and flash it in.
#69
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Not everyone has a laptop or knows what they are doing.
This is a much better option than going back and forth to a shop to tune or blindly jumping in and
you can clear codes or make changes on your own once you get a grip on how the software works.
For around $100 price difference between EFILive & HPTuners you get a lot more for the money, BBF, BBR, BBL, SD card memory, serial devices are supported ect.
The only thing HPT has over EFILive is the amount of supported vehicles and some would say the support is not complete,
they are still adding parameters for the LS1 PCM that have been available for a long time w/EFILIve.
Have the figured out the VVE stuff yet?
Both will work do some research,
it's not like neither has a web page or forum.
You won't see the EFILive support staff or sales people replying to threads like these only customers.
This is a much better option than going back and forth to a shop to tune or blindly jumping in and
you can clear codes or make changes on your own once you get a grip on how the software works.
For around $100 price difference between EFILive & HPTuners you get a lot more for the money, BBF, BBR, BBL, SD card memory, serial devices are supported ect.
The only thing HPT has over EFILive is the amount of supported vehicles and some would say the support is not complete,
they are still adding parameters for the LS1 PCM that have been available for a long time w/EFILIve.
Have the figured out the VVE stuff yet?
Both will work do some research,
it's not like neither has a web page or forum.
You won't see the EFILive support staff or sales people replying to threads like these only customers.
#70
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Not everyone has a laptop or knows what they are doing.
Nobody knows what they're doing on the first car they tune, in theory maybe but R&D is the only way to begin to know how to tune. With netbooks more than capable of tuning going for less than $200 new on a daily basis thats not much of an excuse not to tune now days.
For around $100 price difference between EFILive & HPTuners you get a lot more for the money, BBF, BBR, BBL, SD card memory, serial devices are supported ect.
The only thing HPT has over EFILive is the amount of supported vehicles and some would say the support is not complete,
they are still adding parameters for the LS1 PCM that have been available for a long time w/EFILIve.
Have the figured out the VVE stuff yet?
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showpo...2&postcount=22
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showpo...06&postcount=3
Both will work do some research,
it's not like neither has a web page or forum.
You won't see the EFILive support staff or sales people replying to threads like these only customers.
it's not like neither has a web page or forum.
You won't see the EFILive support staff or sales people replying to threads like these only customers.
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EFI live over HPTuners. I know several unsatisfied HPtuners users that wish they would have gone with EFI live. I am extremely happy with EFI live and the support available on these forums and EFI live's forum.
#72
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Alright guys I'm tired of seeing these treads. Look at the sticky if you have questions regarding HPT vs EFILive. Everyone has an opinion and until you've used both on a daily basis, none in hear can have an unbiased opinion, period. Both products have features that the other doesn't and each have positives and negatives when it comes to that. Reasearch on your own, go to each sites web page and FORUMS and ask questions. Don't ask them in hear as I'll start handing out warnings. Foff and I have been round And round on these issues before some of you could probably even drive
so your beating a dead horse and issue. It's done. Anymore hpt bs efilive threads will be deleated IMMEDIATELY without warning.
For those wondering, I've own both...Don't ask what I prefer as I won't answer.
so your beating a dead horse and issue. It's done. Anymore hpt bs efilive threads will be deleated IMMEDIATELY without warning.
For those wondering, I've own both...Don't ask what I prefer as I won't answer.