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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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I need a good idea of what to tune the MSD 6010 with my 6.0, want to see what anyone here has going, the engine is about 10 to 1 with the cam timed straight up. Victor Jr intake and 750 CFM double, any help is needed.

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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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What is too much timing for these, giuy said that 31* is allot for these? Doesnt make since.
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My motor ran like crap with 30* in it. On my motor (6.0 LQ9 with a XER281HR) I believe the most it sees is around 26. Runs great now, but again, some one (not saying names) put almost the entire high octane timing table at 30*+. Maybe grab a Aeroforce gauge, or HPtuners (if you are running a computer) just for data logging and fine tuning.
You should be able to tinker a bit, though if it does start detonating it ends up going into the low octane table like mine did. What did you end up going with spec wise? (I stalk you here and over on TGO lol)
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The Trex cam? I am running 36* right now, it runs good but i am carbed, guess i might try pulling timing, i stopped my buddies pull(he had the jump) and his 6.0 has a V2 torqer, but he backs his timing down from 36* above a certain RPM, so I might try that?
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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Any carb LSx guys know where these like to be?
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I have a TREX as well. My total is 28* with around 14* at idle (1000 rpm). I am also carb'd. It's all in by 2000 rpm. Still working out a monster stumble from idle to WOT.
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Ok, i will back it out and see how she likes it, i dont have a stumble and i would laugh if i did after backing it down!
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Originally Posted by NOPANTS-68
I have a TREX as well. My total is 28* with around 14* at idle (1000 rpm). I am also carb'd. It's all in by 2000 rpm. Still working out a monster stumble from idle to WOT.
Have you run your at the track yet?
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prolly best way to find the correct curve is with a wbo2. its what i had on the other car. i know its kinda pricey upfront but will tell u where the motor is most happy with timing.
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Need to take my *** to the track and start at 28 and go up 2* till i lose MPH, that is the best way i can think of.
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i have a trex cam in my lq9 and it did best at nelson performance at 29* he said there is no knock even with more timing but i just not going to make more power after that.
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Carbed?

Dropped it down to 30* to see how it felt, hard to tell really, gonna go to the track in a few weeks and dial it in that way.
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no efi but should be no different other than carb may have a lower air temp
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One would think, still waiting on someone with a informative answer.
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You need to have a ramping timing curve. I would start out with 28* at 3Krpm and slope it downward to 26* at 4400-4800rpm and then ramp it back up to 29* by 6500rpm. Basically you want to pull a slight amount of timing at peak torque and after the peak torque to keep the torque and power up you'll ramp the timing back into it. This has worked very well on many of the car's I've tuned.
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I will have to give it a try, thanks.
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Have you run your at the track yet?
yeah it ran a 12.1 @119 with aterrible 60' of 1.90. I have a huge stumble I need to figure out. Some guys have said a 50cc pump works with some pink cams, but I have not tried it yet. I wrote a new curve with 16* initial and a quick ramp up to 28* all in at 2800 rpm. The car pulls really hard up top so I'll leave the curve flat for now. Just tring to get the car to 60' first.
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Originally Posted by NOPANTS-68
I have a TREX as well. My total is 28* with around 14* at idle (1000 rpm). I am also carb'd. It's all in by 2000 rpm. Still working out a monster stumble from idle to WOT.
Try bumping your idle timing up a bit say 18-20* and fatten it a little and this should smooth out the transition.

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will do- thanks for the help. I'll let you know what happens.
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Check the difference the idle cells in your base timing versus your low/high timing. If there is a difference, once the throttle opens you will get a stumble when going WOT from idle.

Originally Posted by NOPANTS-68
I have a TREX as well. My total is 28* with around 14* at idle (1000 rpm). I am also carb'd. It's all in by 2000 rpm. Still working out a monster stumble from idle to WOT.
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