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Old May 18, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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Guys,

Looking for info on a few things here. I just got some tuning software and was wondering what order should I tune in?

A/F then timing then etc?

Also, let's say I mill my heads and dial in my cam timing after reducing squish...WHAT effect will this have on my ignition timing??? Will it advance it or retard it?
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Old May 19, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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First, go for "fidelity". That is, commanded AFR ought
to equal delivered AFR across the driving envelope
(especially at the big end where it's most likely to
hurt itself, but generally). This is the airflow model
stuff primarily, compensating for post-factory mods.
Hopefully no fuel delivery mods are in play (yet). Be
sure the fuel system is factory-like, clean filter, check
rail pressure for normalcy.

Then with stock timing, get the fueling where it should
be, going by conventional wisdom.

Next, tweak timing up until more quits helping and/or
you run into ping; then back off a few for safety and
weather.

You can repeat the last two iteratively until you run
out of ambition, or call it good.

There will probably be more detail work to do, like
when you run into your first patch of real hot summer
you may find ping you didn't have, and chase that
through the IAT / ECT spark tables (if AFR is holding
tight) or, where available, temperature modifiers for
fueling if the delivered AFR wanders with ambient
temp or coolant temp.

More compression means hotter charge and faster
burn (other things being roughly equal) so less
advance needed for the same power-pulse position.

Knowing where you want that position, wants some
real-time measure of delivered power or acceleration.
A rollup like quarter mile time / MPH, lacks the detail
to fit any particular table cell. You can rough it in but
have to do it "by eye", best guess.
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Buy the bible
http://www.masportspeedshop.com/serv...-tuning/Detail
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Old May 22, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmyblue
First, go for "fidelity". That is, commanded AFR ought
to equal delivered AFR across the driving envelope
(especially at the big end where it's most likely to
hurt itself, but generally). This is the airflow model
stuff primarily, compensating for post-factory mods.
Hopefully no fuel delivery mods are in play (yet). Be
sure the fuel system is factory-like, clean filter, check
rail pressure for normalcy.

Then with stock timing, get the fueling where it should
be, going by conventional wisdom.

Next, tweak timing up until more quits helping and/or
you run into ping; then back off a few for safety and
weather.

You can repeat the last two iteratively until you run
out of ambition, or call it good.

There will probably be more detail work to do, like
when you run into your first patch of real hot summer
you may find ping you didn't have, and chase that
through the IAT / ECT spark tables (if AFR is holding
tight) or, where available, temperature modifiers for
fueling if the delivered AFR wanders with ambient
temp or coolant temp.

More compression means hotter charge and faster
burn (other things being roughly equal) so less
advance needed for the same power-pulse position.

Knowing where you want that position, wants some
real-time measure of delivered power or acceleration.
A rollup like quarter mile time / MPH, lacks the detail
to fit any particular table cell. You can rough it in but
have to do it "by eye", best guess.
Great info Jimmy! I understand about making sure the desired AF is actually the AF you are getting by modifying the fuel tables. So it sounds like the fuel tables is priority 1 for the ecu then it tries to hit the desired AF. So this sounds like something that would need to be dialed in throughout the entire rpm band and not just at idle due to variations in the amount of 02 that enters the cylinder at various rpm. Also, good to know that i can dial back the timing once I skim the heads.

Thanks!
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