PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo

No spark after moving maf

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 13, 2010 | 09:47 PM
  #1  
69cutlassrkt's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default No spark after moving maf

starting my car it takes a really long time to start. The only thing that I did was move my maf closer to the throttle body. And later I moved it back to see if it would make a difference and it didn't. I haven't had any problems before with it stating till today, usually it starts right up.

Got any suggestions?
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2010 | 09:54 PM
  #2  
Wesmanw02's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,369
Likes: 4
Default

Originally Posted by 69cutlassrkt
starting my car it takes a really long time to start. The only thing that I did was move my maf closer to the throttle body. And later I moved it back to see if it would make a difference and it didn't. I haven't had any problems before with it stating till today, usually it starts right up.

Got any suggestions?
Sounds like you may have damaged something or forgot to plug something in after reinstalling the MAF. Check your harnesses near the throttle body, including TPS, IAC, IAT, and the MAF harness.

You could also try unplugging the MAF and see if the car starts. If the PCM doesn't get a MAF reading, it defaults to speed density mode and uses the MAP sensor to run the car. Its basically a fail-safe system. If it starts with the MAF unplugged, then you have a bad MAF sensor.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2010 | 10:01 PM
  #3  
69cutlassrkt's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

Thanks. I was going to try to unplug the maf earlier today, but I couldnt get the plug off. When I moved the maf earlier today I left everything plugged in. I just sat the maf on the engine while I took the intake tubing apart.
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2010 | 07:39 AM
  #4  
Old Geezer's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 5,639
Likes: 71
From: GA, USA
Default

Scan it....
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 11:17 PM
  #5  
69cutlassrkt's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

I think the problem may have something to do when I was taking some of my old gauges out from the dash. I unhooked a ground wire, but idk what it would be for. The car starts better if I key it to start real fast a bunch of times.
Also my dad unplugged the maf and it didn't help any.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 04:54 PM
  #6  
69cutlassrkt's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

Anyone have any idea why it works more often when I leave the ignition in the on position on and keep keying it to start?
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 05:56 PM
  #7  
BLK02WS6's Avatar
9 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,583
Likes: 1
From: on the dyno tuning in MD
Default

Possibly the fuel pump isn't priming as well as it did before for some reason. When you cycle the key like that, it primes each time you do it...
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 07:28 PM
  #8  
69cutlassrkt's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

its getting fuel, the plugs have gas on em. Would the fuel pump not priming well cause it not to spark?
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 07:31 PM
  #9  
BLK02WS6's Avatar
9 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,583
Likes: 1
From: on the dyno tuning in MD
Default

Originally Posted by 69cutlassrkt
its getting fuel, the plugs have gas on em. Would the fuel pump not priming well cause it not to spark?

Sorry - didn't catch the part about no spark - thought that was an earlier problem. No, that wouldn't be the fuel pump. Does it have spark at all when you crank it with a plug out? Not really following exactly what you have going on...
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 08:57 PM
  #10  
69cutlassrkt's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

Most of the time it doesn't. It will eventually work. The only way it really starts is if I key it forward to start a few times continuously. Instead of just holding the key there making it turn over for awhile. Sorry its kinda hard to explain.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2010 | 09:42 AM
  #11  
jimmyblue's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 12,604
Likes: 7
From: East Central Florida
Default

I think this may be an overfueling-at-idle problem, not
an absolute lack of spark. Maybe you have a setup
where a MAF fault doesn't light the SES, but still puts
the thing into speed density mode (where perhaps you
are not so well tweaked up), or maybe you have some
other sensor fault with direct effects on fueling (or
more likely airflow calculation).

Scanning for normalcy in MAF Hz, MAP, ECT, TPS and
the like would be a good start.

Connector pins might be worth inspecting, they can
push out.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2010 | 12:59 PM
  #12  
69cutlassrkt's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

We are going to check the fuel pressure but, the motor still isnt getting any spark. It will only spark sometimes. Only if its keyed to start continuosly.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2010 | 05:18 PM
  #13  
Old Geezer's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 5,639
Likes: 71
From: GA, USA
Question ???

Originally Posted by 69cutlassrkt
We are going to check the fuel pressure but, the motor still isnt getting any spark. It will only spark sometimes. Only if its keyed to start continuosly.
Key switch fubar??
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2010 | 11:33 PM
  #14  
69cutlassrkt's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Old Geezer
Key switch fubar??
If its messed up would it not crank either?

Last edited by 69cutlassrkt; Jun 22, 2010 at 11:46 PM.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:18 AM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-04 18:13:20


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE