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Old 01-18-2004, 01:20 AM
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Default (98 LS1) Removed EGR with header install, A/F went crazy...

Would that make sense?
I bought a set of TTS long tube headers and they came off a 2000 so the EGR stuff was different. I didn't have the right stuff so I just left it off and put an expansion plug in the intake until I get the LS6 intake.
I have a custom tune by MCG of St Louis and it was done when the EGR was in tact with the Mac headers.

My dyno was pretty nice though

330.4 HP @ 6100
318.3 TQ @ 4100
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the EGR should be the same as the 00, its the air pipes that are different.

i ran with a block off plate, !egr/!air,!rear o2 sensors with no tuning and no problems after my LT, Y, catback install.
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Originally Posted by jrp
the EGR should be the same as the 00, its the air pipes that are different.
98-99s use a different EGR tube than the 00s. It bolts to a different location on the 00s cast iron manifolds.

I just did the same thing yesterday putting 98-99 MACs on a 00. Used the rubber exp. plug in the manifold.

You say the A/F went crazy, but you gave no details. Kind of hard to comment without some details.
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
98-99s use a different EGR tube than the 00s. It bolts to a different location on the 00s cast iron manifolds.

I just did the same thing yesterday putting 98-99 MACs on a 00. Used the rubber exp. plug in the manifold.

You say the A/F went crazy, but you gave no details. Kind of hard to comment without some details.
thanks for the info, i didnt know that. so then the 2000 headers are a one off then huh if both the air and egr have a different setup.
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http://jk1066.autotechforums.com/misc/a%20f%20scan.jpg
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What did it look like before you changed headers and egr? Looks like your running a pretty good a/f mixture and than really really rich. Are you sure there was no problem before the header install / egr removal? Do you have a base line? Where is the RPM band on that graph? Again hard to help with so little info.
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yhr rpm is at the bottom of the graph, and yes I have baseline #'s
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I think there was a problem with the wideband on the dyno. IMO, I think your car would be noticeably running like crap if the A/F was really jumping around like that. If the plug in the manifold was leaking or there was air getting into the exhaust system, it would go lean across the board.
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its possible. but my friend did his car after mine and it seemed ok
here is a dyno sheet from last spring
http://jk1066.autotechforums.com/dyn...ragingdyno.JPG
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What did the HP and TQ curve do when the A/F was jumping around? If they were stable or unaffected I'd still have to say it was the wideband malfunction.
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Do you still have the Cat Over Temp protection on in the tune you have? That's what the graph kind've looks like to me.
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the cat overtemp is off




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