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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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I've got a C5Z with livernois 243's 59-60cc, EPS/LXL 230/230 111+2, long tubes, no cats and a vararam. It put down 462/435 on a dyno dynamics dyno. We're having some problems with drivability. It wants to sputter on initial take off or when you're coming to a red light, you slow down, light turn green, put it in 2-3 depending on speed, get back on the gas it'll sputter for 2 seconds then come come back to life. Too rich, lean, timing? Any ideas fellas?
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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Might be burst knock retard spoiling the fun. Try zeroing out the table and see if that helps. If you data log during this happening, I bet you'll see the ignition timing drop a bunch. Otherwise, see what your fuel trims are doing at this rpm. If you haven't modified your VE tables, you're probably too rich a lower rpm.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 04:25 PM
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Have you considered a mechanical issue? can you post the tune? what software is it tuned with? can you post a log recorded showing the issue?

if it is boggy it is prolly rich, if it is bucky it is prolly lean. timing can make it do either buck or bog.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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its deff a tuning issue sounds like if you did a nice ve or maf tune and itll clear up good. do you hae a wide band in the car?
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Defiantly not mechanical. I trust my tuner, just trying to get some ideas from others to look at. I'll let him know what you guys are saying and see what he thinks. Thanks guys!
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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Can't tell anything without seeing a log/tune.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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adjusting timing does wonders too. tuning idle is actually harder than wot and take more time i hate when a customer asks me to do it haha. i give the job to a friend that wants to learn or something haha
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99% of driveability issues are cleaned up when you follow a proper tuning procedure and spend some time doing steady state open loop mapping on a load bearing dyno at part throttle. If you (or your tuner) jumped right into WOT tuning without taking the time to do the steady state part load mapping, then it's not surprising that it made good numbers but struggles on transition.

You will find that if the injector data, VE surface, and MAF transfer function are all properly calibrated, a lot of the "driveability" issues just fall into place.
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