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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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My car has a vibration that is RPM dependent. It seems to come and go through the range being the worst around 2500-3000RPM. I have replaced the vibration damper and it has a new FW/clutch/PP that were balanced together.
Could the vibration just be the harmonics of the engine made worse through poy mounts and a semi solid transaxle mount? or, can it be the fuel trim in the tune? If anyone has other ideas I would be glad to hear them.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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If you're using poly engine mounts, you should be using a poly trans mount as well. Short of that, I'd also have the driveline checked for balance.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Crank harmonics/oscillations are not felt within the car as vibration.

Does it happen in that rpm range when free revving (something is out-of-round/balance) or when under load (misfire)...?
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by joecar
Crank harmonics/oscillations are not felt within the car as vibration.
But bottom-end related vibration/oscillations can be.....think of cracked flexplates or flywheels, and all the hell they can play with diagnosis....not to mention the transmissions behind them.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 01:31 AM
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Does the engine vibrate in park/neutral also, or only moving?
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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Thanks, for the replies. The vibration comes in and out at the same RPM's under load or not, going up the band and when coming back down. The Flywheel/pressure plate/clutch assembly was sent in to be checked for balance, it was balanced. I put on a new vibration damper with no change. I do have poly transaxle and motor mounts. It happens when still and the clutch is in so it is not the drive shaft or transaxle.
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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Check your driveshaft angle, different mounts might have changed it.

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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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Never thought of that, thanks.
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bmax
Check your driveshaft angle, different mounts might have changed it.

Good luck
Hi bm,

he has a transaxle, his driveshaft is located in a rigid tube running between engine and transaxle (on his 944);

and earlier he said this:
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It happens when still and the clutch is in so it is not the drive shaft or transaxle.
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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Can the fuel trim at the RPM when the vibration happens cause a vibration? There is some roughness to the idle, or it may be from having semisolid motor mounts. I had a mail order tune done, but not street or dyno tune.
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Misfire can sometimes show up as a vibration.
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Thanks, that is what I am trying to figure out. How about O2 sensors? That comes up when I am searching.
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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I pulled the plugs and they look good, the insulator was just a little tan colored. New NGK plugs with new MSD plug wires. I pulled on fuel injector connector at a time, each one was essentially the same. Then I pulled the serpentine belt, no change.
Can a street tune be useful?
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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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I still have the vibration when the motor is under load around 3K RPM and when the RPM's come back down through 3K off throttle. Does that indicate an ignition/tuning problem? If it is then I will take it to a tuner. If not I am going to take the preload plates off the energy suspension motor mounts. Any help is appreciated, I don't want to remove the motor mounts.
The clutch/FW/PP have been off to check for balance and the vibration damper has been replaced with a new unit, no change.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:41 PM
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It was the clutch. Swapped in a LS7 kit and all is well.
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It could be one of your coil packs going bad.I had this problem.I never had any codes.I found it by taking a temp gun and checking each header and found one temp lower than the rest.Coil 8 was bad.The coil worked fine at full throttle but not part throttle or idle.It took me awhile to figure it out.
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