hp tuners questions
hp tuners questions Thinking about buying hp tuners premium suite and I'm just wondering if this will let me see the codes that are coming up but give me a more in depth idea as to what the problem may be. I'm very new to this lol
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The $650 price includes 8 "credits". Each PCM, ECM , TCM or "Supported Vehicle" requires 2 credits.
Therefore if you are tuning pre-2005(?) vehicles that used a PCM, you can tune 4 different vehicles. And you can tune each one as many times as your want, even 100 times.
Starting in 2005(?) GM switched to using a separate ECM (engine) and TCM (trans). As long as the vehicle numbers in the ECM and TCM match (as they should with a factory car), with 8 credits you can still tune 4 different vehicles. However if you build a custom car with non-matching ECM and TCM you may need to use 2 credits for each ECM and TCM. More info:
http://www.hptuners.com/products/vcmsuite_vehicles.php
Additional credits cost $50 each, so $100 per vehicle or xCM.
Therefore if you are tuning pre-2005(?) vehicles that used a PCM, you can tune 4 different vehicles. And you can tune each one as many times as your want, even 100 times.
Starting in 2005(?) GM switched to using a separate ECM (engine) and TCM (trans). As long as the vehicle numbers in the ECM and TCM match (as they should with a factory car), with 8 credits you can still tune 4 different vehicles. However if you build a custom car with non-matching ECM and TCM you may need to use 2 credits for each ECM and TCM. More info:
http://www.hptuners.com/products/vcmsuite_vehicles.php
Additional credits cost $50 each, so $100 per vehicle or xCM.
Last edited by mrvedit; Apr 27, 2015 at 04:36 PM. Reason: Correction and additional info
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The $650 price includes 8 "credits". Each PCM, ECM or TCM requires 2 credits.
Therefore if you are tuning pre-2005(?) vehicles that used a PCM, you can tune 4 different vehicles. And you can tune each one as many times as your want, even 100 times.
Starting in 2005(?) GM switched to using a separate ECM (engine) and TCM (trans); with 8 credits you can then only fully tune 2 vehicles.
Additional credits cost $50 each, so $100 per xCM.
Therefore if you are tuning pre-2005(?) vehicles that used a PCM, you can tune 4 different vehicles. And you can tune each one as many times as your want, even 100 times.
Starting in 2005(?) GM switched to using a separate ECM (engine) and TCM (trans); with 8 credits you can then only fully tune 2 vehicles.
Additional credits cost $50 each, so $100 per xCM.
The $650 price includes 8 "credits". Each PCM, ECM or TCM requires 2 credits.
Therefore if you are tuning pre-2005(?) vehicles that used a PCM, you can tune 4 different vehicles. And you can tune each one as many times as your want, even 100 times.
Starting in 2005(?) GM switched to using a separate ECM (engine) and TCM (trans); with 8 credits you can then only fully tune 2 vehicles.
Additional credits cost $50 each, so $100 per xCM.
Therefore if you are tuning pre-2005(?) vehicles that used a PCM, you can tune 4 different vehicles. And you can tune each one as many times as your want, even 100 times.
Starting in 2005(?) GM switched to using a separate ECM (engine) and TCM (trans); with 8 credits you can then only fully tune 2 vehicles.
Additional credits cost $50 each, so $100 per xCM.
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Sorry for any confusion - yes 2 credits covers any vehicle.
I have experience with swap vehicles (LSx engine/trans in other cars) and some of these people bought mismatched ECMs and TCMs with different vehicles numbers. IIRC they ended up having to use 2 credits for the ECM and 2 credits for the TCM.
I have experience with swap vehicles (LSx engine/trans in other cars) and some of these people bought mismatched ECMs and TCMs with different vehicles numbers. IIRC they ended up having to use 2 credits for the ECM and 2 credits for the TCM.
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Sorry for any confusion - yes 2 credits covers any vehicle.
I have experience with swap vehicles (LSx engine/trans in other cars) and some of these people bought mismatched ECMs and TCMs with different vehicles numbers. IIRC they ended up having to use 2 credits for the ECM and 2 credits for the TCM.
I have experience with swap vehicles (LSx engine/trans in other cars) and some of these people bought mismatched ECMs and TCMs with different vehicles numbers. IIRC they ended up having to use 2 credits for the ECM and 2 credits for the TCM.
What you might be thinking about is people who went to a custom os. Also people who swapped from one os to another. Both of these would require 4 credits.
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1998 t/a: Sorry to have hijacked your thread, so let us get back to your original question.
The HP Tuners Suite is designed for tuning your car, not just scanning it. While it will of course show the same codes as a simple scanner, you can log many engine parameters over a period of time, and such logs are very beneficial for debugging problems. There is a significant learning curve to all this, even to learning to fully use the scanner and logging.
Why not tell us what your plans and needs are. We will also be happy to answer more specific questions.
The HP Tuners Suite is designed for tuning your car, not just scanning it. While it will of course show the same codes as a simple scanner, you can log many engine parameters over a period of time, and such logs are very beneficial for debugging problems. There is a significant learning curve to all this, even to learning to fully use the scanner and logging.
Why not tell us what your plans and needs are. We will also be happy to answer more specific questions.
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hptuners OK , so please tell me if I'm right or wrong. To change a ecm file from one platform to another (
From truck to car) would require 4 credits. 2 to register the ecm so I can over write it and 2 to license the car file I want to install? Is this right?
From truck to car) would require 4 credits. 2 to register the ecm so I can over write it and 2 to license the car file I want to install? Is this right?
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You license the vin/ecm serial number and OS for 2 credits. If you want to change the OS you must also license the new file for 2credits.
Think of it this way. You always have to have a license for what is in the pcm and what you want to write to the pcm. One way you can save money is find someone that has full model year licenses for the more common vehicles and have them write the vehicle and OS you want to end up with. Then read that file and license that one.
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Think of it this way. You always have to have a license for what is in the pcm and what you want to write to the pcm. One way you can save money is find someone that has full model year licenses for the more common vehicles and have them write the vehicle and OS you want to end up with. Then read that file and license that one.
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