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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 02:45 AM
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I am new to tuning but have learned a lot and I have my car dialed in pretty close to where I want on my VE and MAF tables and the car drives good. However I took it to the track this weekend and it wasnt as consistent as another car that i had mail order tuned. It wasnt terrible but did make one move of .04, so it was making bigger moves with the weather than I'd like. What are some things I should look at to make the car more consistent??

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There are so many variables to this. Everything from tire temp to track changes to fuel quality to engine and trans temp. The variables to consider are practically infinite.

Obviously your tune didn't change between runs, so it's exterior variables that are causing the change.
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For my very competative bracket racers we do a full open loop tune with no maf,no 02's correcting and put in an adjustable fuel regulator for minor temp adjustments.
They are very consistant
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 12:37 AM
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I understand that outside variables ultimately play the biggest role in consistency. I guess I should have stated my question as what would you be inclined to do differently in a tune for a car you would want to make sure was consistent as possible tune wise? What thing would do differently vs a all out performance tune or daily driver street tune?
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 06:25 AM
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* You don't want knock retard possibly pulling timing one pass and not the next pass. Some cars are very susceptible to KR.
* Any positive LTFT will be carried into PE mode at wide open throttle. This can cause inconsistency with your AFR. Be sure you tune for all negative LTFT.
* Delete any torque management and traction control
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ARCTIC_ZEE
I understand that outside variables ultimately play the biggest role in consistency. I guess I should have stated my question as what would you be inclined to do differently in a tune for a car you would want to make sure was consistent as possible tune wise? What thing would do differently vs a all out performance tune or daily driver street tune?
See quote below. Thats a good bit of it.


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For my very competative bracket racers we do a full open loop tune with no maf,no 02's correcting and put in an adjustable fuel regulator for minor temp adjustments.
They are very consistant
We have been doing the same with very good results. Had some cars get protested several times because they are so consistent. They were running foot brake, no electronics class and get accused of having something hidden in the car. We only handled the tuning, the driver is just very good and is very good at doing his routine the same every pass.
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Originally Posted by LSX Power Tuning
See quote below. Thats a good bit of it.




We have been doing the same with very good results. Had some cars get protested several times because they are so consistent. They were running foot brake, no electronics class and get accused of having something hidden in the car. We only handled the tuning, the driver is just very good and is very good at doing his routine the same every pass.
Can you give a run down of how you use the regulator?
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Interested as well
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Originally Posted by Rick01SS
Can you give a run down of how you use the regulator?
If the driver/crew doesnt have tuning software and we dont go to the races with them it gives them a away to fine tune there fuel for different weather. If you raise the fuel pressure it will make it richer, if you lower it, it goes leaner.
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Originally Posted by ARCTIC_ZEE
I am new to tuning but have learned a lot and I have my car dialed in pretty close to where I want on my VE and MAF tables and the car drives good. However I took it to the track this weekend and it wasnt as consistent as another car that i had mail order tuned. It wasnt terrible but did make one move of .04, so it was making bigger moves with the weather than I'd like. What are some things I should look at to make the car more consistent??

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Change to an electric vehicle without enough power to break a tire loose. You can then run consistent times down to the millisecond. If that sounds ridiculous or boring, you now know what I think of bracket racing in general.
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Originally Posted by gametech
Change to an electric vehicle without enough power to break a tire loose. You can then run consistent times down to the millisecond. If that sounds ridiculous or boring, you now know what I think of bracket racing in general.
There are many that feel that way but bracket racers really don't care. Every type of racing, especially class racing has issues. Bracket racing is one of the easiest types of racing to prevent cheating and even if you think it doesn't, it keeps drag racing alive. I don't think the OP asked or gives a **** if you don't like it.
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Originally Posted by codyvette
There are many that feel that way but bracket racers really don't care. Every type of racing, especially class racing has issues. Bracket racing is one of the easiest types of racing to prevent cheating and even if you think it doesn't, it keeps drag racing alive. I don't think the OP asked or gives a **** if you don't like it.
You are, of course correct. Keep in mind however, that it is nearly a requirement on the internet to give the occasional unsolicited opinion.
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Originally Posted by gametech
You are, of course correct. Keep in mind however, that it is nearly a requirement on the internet to give the occasional unsolicited opinion.
LOL! Correct.
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