HP tuners or EFI live
04-01-2019, 07:41 PM
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HP tuners or EFI live Vehicle is in signature. I have this car and want to tune it. It will not have a MAF sensor so will need speed density tuning. I am looking for feedback on which tuner is better (easier to use) for this style of tuning. The car does have a custom grind Lunati cam ground for the build. It is a 294/310 .651 .651 112+4 cam. It previously was equipped with a 150 shot with external fuel adder. The timing was pulled with a lingenfelter box and not the tune. According to the AFR meter the stoic is pretty stable at 14.5-14.8. The idle does need work, it idles at 1000 rpm but not as clean as I would like. I hope the tune just needs a little polishing. Thanks in advance for any insight.
04-02-2019, 09:04 AM
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I would recommend HPT, it has more support and is cheaper. We keep it in stock http://www.lsxpowertuning.com/online...egory=12444424 you would need 2 credits to tune your car.
04-02-2019, 11:41 AM
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I have both and for gas applications EFI has more parameters and tables, it has better tunerlock features and the way they license the controller is much better than HP.
HPT has a lot more vehicles supported in general and it's easier to use but their new licensing system is very expensive and greedy.
In the Diesel world, EFI is light years ahead
HPT has a lot more vehicles supported in general and it's easier to use but their new licensing system is very expensive and greedy.
In the Diesel world, EFI is light years ahead
04-02-2019, 11:58 AM
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I also use both. Montecarlo basically answered why, but I never said HPT wasn't good. I compared them against cell phone makers. HPT has a more simplistic user interface and is good for the person who just wants to make a phone call and use basic stuff, aka Apple. EFI Live's user interface is for more advanced user's (Android) and does have access to some tables that HPT doesnt. I also prefer the look of the EFI Scan tool over HPT's.
04-02-2019, 12:12 PM
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I have been using efilive for years they have great support, all my friends use hpt. problems that they have I don't. its all apples and oranges. efilive can do a lot of things that hpt can't do and hpt can do things efi can't. I swapped my 98 ecm to 0411. I can write what ever vin I want in ecm. efi can store as many tunes as you want in module, you can flash a tune without laptop, blackbox logging. multiple ports (6) to log data like wideband etc.... I can wire in a switch for valent, n2o, for 2 step. the
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04-02-2019, 01:10 PM
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You can change the layout of hpt....In out experience HPT has more tables especially in the last 5+years. Efi discontinued suport for older controllers and hpt kept adding stuff. Hpt can data log with a laptop but not flash. Hpt constantly is updating efi hasn’t finished V8 in 10+ years. Like I said we use both and both companies have been great to us but hpt has done a better job in updates, addding tables, features and vehicle support. Some of the things posted applied years ago but not anymore.
04-02-2019, 03:24 PM
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You can change the layout of hpt....In out experience HPT has more tables especially in the last 5+years. Efi discontinued suport for older controllers and hpt kept adding stuff. Hpt can data log with a laptop but not flash. Hpt constantly is updating efi hasn’t finished V8 in 10+ years. Like I said we use both and both companies have been great to us but hpt has done a better job in updates, addding tables, features and vehicle support. Some of the things posted applied years ago but not anymore.
04-02-2019, 06:01 PM
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Looks like I will be going with the HPT. I am not looking for the last .00001 hp. Just a good reliable tune to run 6.0 in the eighth and 10.0 in the quarter. The previous owner claimed 550 to the rear wheels without spray. I am looking more for insurance that the tune in the car is fine for running n/a.
04-06-2019, 01:38 AM
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To think I was doing real time tuning over a decade ago on sh*t like Honda's and DSM's and I can't real time tune my Corvettes on HP is just strange. I have HPT and now this thread makes me feel like hell...lmao...EFI has real time....wtf.
04-06-2019, 12:31 PM
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Do you have any local friends with one or the other? In my opinion both have a steep learning curve. So if you have a buddy close to you that is proficient with one go with it. The forums are very helpful but in my opinion nothing beats one on one time with someone proficient. Just my 2cents
04-07-2019, 05:11 PM
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I am new to the area and new to tuning. I agree some one local that trades time for beer and pizza would be awesome. I am ordering the tuner this week and will be looking for some one to help out the learning curve.
04-09-2019, 09:46 PM
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This is the issue I have. It had a pretty bad intake leak, paper gaskets that I have replaced with the oring style. That cured the intake leak but cut the idle air way down. Getting the idle back is the main issue. Then we can run and log for the rest of the tune.I have attached a short video of the idle, if some one could tell me how to get the video in the post that would be awesome. I have no idea how to do that.
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