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Old May 25, 2020 | 06:18 PM
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With the 24x terminator setup, will it work a Transbrake, 2 step, bump box and boost controller?
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Yes..
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Your just limited by the 4 I/O's. You will be maxed out.
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use a thermistor for your fans and that'll get you one output back. if you can live without logging your oil pressure you can log trans line pressure through there, but it's got a hard limit at 250psi.

i have just the bare bones set up for staging a turbo car and i'm already eyeing the dominator
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also IME you can run the brake directly. it'll be triggered by the same wire that signals the holley to engage the 2 step.

I havent used the holley bump timer as the DIY ebay timer box works so well.
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
use a thermistor for your fans and that'll get you one output back. if you can live without logging your oil pressure you can log trans line pressure through there, but it's got a hard limit at 250psi.

i have just the bare bones set up for staging a turbo car and i'm already eyeing the dominator
How are you keeping the fans off at speed?
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Old May 26, 2020 | 10:54 PM
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Fan really shouldn't trigger to come on above 35 or so, the natural air flow should be cooling the car correctly.
I want the fan to come on if the engine hits 195.. but that's me.. if it s a drag race setup use a switch. /??
I've found in general that a thermostat controlled fan lets the engine temps oscillate less.. And a stable temp = more reliability..
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yeah the only time it really kicks on is in traffic. the thermistors are generally 185*F
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
yeah the only time it really kicks on is in traffic. the thermistors are generally 185*F
Gotcha, my car runs hotter on highway than in traffic so thats why I asked.

Current plan for mine is to run both fans off one large SSR and only use one fan output to pwm drive em both.
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I'm running
Inputs:
2-step
e85
Dome pressure
Front wheel speed (still need to get this working right)

Outputs:
Boost solenoid
Fan
Water pump
2nd/3rd fuel pump

I have oil temp, coolant pressure, on board air pressure, and 2-step signal going into my 7" dash.
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Originally Posted by minytrker
Your just limited by the 4 I/O's. You will be maxed out.
Those 4 aren't going to max him out lol.
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Those 4 aren't going to max him out lol.
I didnt say those 4 would max it out...I said you will be maxed out.....every turbo car we have seen with terminator was maxed out and had to either have stuff hooked to the dash or put things on switches. 4 I/O dont go very far on most turbo cars.
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One thought,, I have seen cars that at highway speed overheat because the fan running actually blocks the air flow. YMMV
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Originally Posted by jayyyw
I'm running
Inputs:
2-step
e85
Dome pressure
Front wheel speed (still need to get this working right)

Outputs:
Boost solenoid
Fan
Water pump
2nd/3rd fuel pump

I have oil temp, coolant pressure, on board air pressure, and 2-step signal going into my 7" dash.

i'm interested in that wheel speed thing. are you making a table of front vs rear wheels speed (i assume ABS from the front and VSS from the rear) as a way to have traction control?

i also have this idea, but i'm stuck thinking i'll need two tables....one as a by gear multiplier for the first table. so one 1d table for that and then one 2d table for front vs rear vs either boost pressure or timing...not sure which
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Haven’t done it yet but my plan is 3D table, front speed as one axis and rear speed as other. Now your line going 45° up where both values are equal are where it ‘should’ be, above and below that line is when the speeds are different and how far off they are. Your data in the table can be timing or boost or whatever.
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i'm not picturing how to do it with the holley advanced tables. if you make some headway on it, make a video or something?

found a thread on the holley forums where they discuss it a bit

https://forums.holley.com/showthread...9371#post69371

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Originally Posted by truckdoug
i'm interested in that wheel speed thing. are you making a table of front vs rear wheels speed (i assume ABS from the front and VSS from the rear) as a way to have traction control?

i also have this idea, but i'm stuck thinking i'll need two tables....one as a by gear multiplier for the first table. so one 1d table for that and then one 2d table for front vs rear vs either boost pressure or timing...not sure which

Front wheel speed vs rear wheel speed....pull timing when rear exceeds front by whatever mph or percentage you want. Single advanced table.
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
i'm interested in that wheel speed thing. are you making a table of front vs rear wheels speed (i assume ABS from the front and VSS from the rear) as a way to have traction control?

i also have this idea, but i'm stuck thinking i'll need two tables....one as a by gear multiplier for the first table. so one 1d table for that and then one 2d table for front vs rear vs either boost pressure or timing...not sure which
I plan to run off the front abs sensor but won't have a rear speed signal. Thinking about "upgrading" to the Max with trans control so I can pull speed off that for the rear wheels. I have a manual 6 speed car.
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you could probably use an abs tone wheel in the rear, I have used all sorts of different abs sensors to get a speedo reading.

but therein lies the problem with the terminator....you start running outta I/O's pretty quick. I'm already eyeballing the dominator
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
you could probably use an abs tone wheel in the rear, I have used all sorts of different abs sensors to get a speedo reading.

but therein lies the problem with the terminator....you start running outta I/O's pretty quick. I'm already eyeballing the dominator
Yeah, with the front wheel sensor, I am already out of inputs. That's why I was thinking of going to the Max, since you can use just the speed input in the harness and it won't eat up one of your 4 I/Os.

Dominator is definitely looking better and better.
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