Tunerpro first time basics/help?
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Tunerpro first time basics/help? Hey folks. I have a 96 k1500 that I'm about to 411 swap. I have very limited time. Ive ordered hp tuners but i don't have time to wait for it. I need my truck running. ive tuned alot of bikes with factory ecu's (romraider ftw!) And lots of standalone stuff but never a 411.
I was thinking id use Tunerpro just to get this done. I dont even have a cable ... but i DO have a usb ttl cable that i can potentially rewire. Hence my question. First off, will that cable and ftdi drivers work? Secondly whats the order of operations here? Can everything be done in tunerpro or do you need other pieces of software for the flash?
Once in tuner pro..what do i need? Bin file for the express van and some sort of definition I'm guessing?
I was thinking id use Tunerpro just to get this done. I dont even have a cable ... but i DO have a usb ttl cable that i can potentially rewire. Hence my question. First off, will that cable and ftdi drivers work? Secondly whats the order of operations here? Can everything be done in tunerpro or do you need other pieces of software for the flash?
Once in tuner pro..what do i need? Bin file for the express van and some sort of definition I'm guessing?
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I use Tuner Pro RT only for the editing of my operating system which is currently OS 12212156. Then I use "LS Droid" to do the actual writing to any of my four different 512k byte, "P01" PCM devices (two 0411 and two 896) and I don't use a cable. LS Droid does it via a Bluetooth connection to my "OBDLink MX" OBD device. Another choice here to do the reading and writing is the currently beta "PCM Hammer v15" though version 14 is also very dependable. These two programs are very limited with which Bluetooth devices they will work with because of the computing and speed demands. A cheap, 15 buck EBay OBD2 Bluetooth reader ain't gonna' hack it here.
Almost exclusively, I deal with my PCM devices on a workbench out of the vehicle with a junk yard parts wiring harness supplied with dependable 13.8 volts DC power at three amps. Its a good Radio Shack power supply, not a wall wart.
Yes, you need the mated / matched /married "XDF" definition file precisely for whatever OS you chose in Tuner Pro RT to do the editing. To do anything else here is futility and you will blow up your OS checksums. This will "brick" your PCM if LS Droid does not detect the trouble with your checksums prior to writing it.
I would not use a rewired TTL (Transistor-To-Transistor Logic) cable here. Go to the junk yard and pull some wiring and use the Internet to find a bench wiring harness diagram.
What engine? What transmission? You may need to do an OS segment swap if your swap is obscure or oddball.
BIN file from an Express van? If I remember correctly, Express vans came with a one megabyte "P59" PCM and your 0411 PCM only has a 512k byte memory capacity. This is a fatal mismatch and you have some deciding to do here - likely acquire a P59 PCM. And rewire for a P59. And there's only one good BIN / XDF for a P59 PCM . . . aka the "7603" operating system. My suggestion of the 512k byte 12212156 OS won't work for you unless you stay with a 512k byte PCM.
So . . . . what exactly do you have here?
Rick
Almost exclusively, I deal with my PCM devices on a workbench out of the vehicle with a junk yard parts wiring harness supplied with dependable 13.8 volts DC power at three amps. Its a good Radio Shack power supply, not a wall wart.
Yes, you need the mated / matched /married "XDF" definition file precisely for whatever OS you chose in Tuner Pro RT to do the editing. To do anything else here is futility and you will blow up your OS checksums. This will "brick" your PCM if LS Droid does not detect the trouble with your checksums prior to writing it.
I would not use a rewired TTL (Transistor-To-Transistor Logic) cable here. Go to the junk yard and pull some wiring and use the Internet to find a bench wiring harness diagram.
What engine? What transmission? You may need to do an OS segment swap if your swap is obscure or oddball.
BIN file from an Express van? If I remember correctly, Express vans came with a one megabyte "P59" PCM and your 0411 PCM only has a 512k byte memory capacity. This is a fatal mismatch and you have some deciding to do here - likely acquire a P59 PCM. And rewire for a P59. And there's only one good BIN / XDF for a P59 PCM . . . aka the "7603" operating system. My suggestion of the 512k byte 12212156 OS won't work for you unless you stay with a 512k byte PCM.
So . . . . what exactly do you have here?
Rick
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b52,
its a 5.7 / 4l60e combo. both highly modified.
the ebay sell i bought from pulled off the service stickers but wrote "5.7 4L60" on the back. I opened it up and got a picture. Ill post that below from my phone. but the part number on the inside is 16245938. I dont know how to tell if its a 1mb pcm. i ordered connectors seperately, they are red and blue and do fit it.
So Im i reading correctly that if its a 512KB pcm it will not work with this swap? I honestly thought all "411s" were the same until your post.
its a 5.7 / 4l60e combo. both highly modified.
the ebay sell i bought from pulled off the service stickers but wrote "5.7 4L60" on the back. I opened it up and got a picture. Ill post that below from my phone. but the part number on the inside is 16245938. I dont know how to tell if its a 1mb pcm. i ordered connectors seperately, they are red and blue and do fit it.
So Im i reading correctly that if its a 512KB pcm it will not work with this swap? I honestly thought all "411s" were the same until your post.
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If the written words on the PCM connector ends (not the wires) say "Red" and "Blue", its a 512k PCM. If the words are "Blue" and "Green", its a one megabyte PCM. I don't understand why they pull the stickers off.
The 0411 PCM's and the 896 PCM's are both 512k byte devices but the 0411's are said to stream parameter ID's a little faster - seems to be the same to me.
So, an electronic 4L60E trans with a 350 cubic inch engine - likely an LS1 or an LS6. And most likely a drive-by-cable throttle body but I suppose it could be drive-by-wire. Which is it?
If you are running a drive-by-wire throttle body, I'm less sure here. I know the P59 devices can run drive-by-wire and some can do both wire and cable driven throttle bodies but only certain part numbers.
What did your EBay seller tell you about the tune?
Rick
The 0411 PCM's and the 896 PCM's are both 512k byte devices but the 0411's are said to stream parameter ID's a little faster - seems to be the same to me.
So, an electronic 4L60E trans with a 350 cubic inch engine - likely an LS1 or an LS6. And most likely a drive-by-cable throttle body but I suppose it could be drive-by-wire. Which is it?
If you are running a drive-by-wire throttle body, I'm less sure here. I know the P59 devices can run drive-by-wire and some can do both wire and cable driven throttle bodies but only certain part numbers.
What did your EBay seller tell you about the tune?
Rick
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If the written words on the PCM connector ends (not the wires) say "Red" and "Blue", its a 512k PCM. If the words are "Blue" and "Green", its a one megabyte PCM. I don't understand why they pull the stickers off.
The 0411 PCM's and the 896 PCM's are both 512k byte devices but the 0411's are said to stream parameter ID's a little faster - seems to be the same to me.
So, an electronic 4L60E trans with a 350 cubic inch engine - likely an LS1 or an LS6. And most likely a drive-by-cable throttle body but I suppose it could be drive-by-wire. Which is it?
If you are running a drive-by-wire throttle body, I'm less sure here. I know the P59 devices can run drive-by-wire and some can do both wire and cable driven throttle bodies but only certain part numbers.
What did your EBay seller tell you about the tune?
Rick
The 0411 PCM's and the 896 PCM's are both 512k byte devices but the 0411's are said to stream parameter ID's a little faster - seems to be the same to me.
So, an electronic 4L60E trans with a 350 cubic inch engine - likely an LS1 or an LS6. And most likely a drive-by-cable throttle body but I suppose it could be drive-by-wire. Which is it?
If you are running a drive-by-wire throttle body, I'm less sure here. I know the P59 devices can run drive-by-wire and some can do both wire and cable driven throttle bodies but only certain part numbers.
What did your EBay seller tell you about the tune?
Rick
its DBC, and 4wd. he didnt really tell me anything. I just told him I needed a 411 to run the express van os (which is all I knew at the time about 2 years ago when i bought it) and he said he could put that os in it for me. I presume he did it but i havent connected to it yet to find out.
Im trying to find somewhere to go get the parts to make the bench harness but I dont think im going to be able to find anything locally.
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All of the Express van BIN files that I see stored at Gearhead EFI are one megabyte operating systems meant for a blue/green P59 PCM - won't work on your 0411. And it appears that you are going to need to segment swap an LS1/LS6 engine into a 512k red/blue operating system and most of those OS's with good XDF support are for 4.8. 5.3 and 6.0 liter engines - not your 5.7 liter engine.
How modified is your highly modified 5.7? Your modified 4L60E is of less importance to me right now. My tuning experience for highly modified engines is about zero so you are likely going to need somebody else very soon. I'm mostly a VATS killer, DTC killer, EVAP killer, EGR killer, Power Enrichment dabbler and an RPM changer. Making big changes to fueling and airflow is beyond my limited skills.
Maybe HP Tuners will be better for you because its tune repository will likely have better support for what you need.
Rick
How modified is your highly modified 5.7? Your modified 4L60E is of less importance to me right now. My tuning experience for highly modified engines is about zero so you are likely going to need somebody else very soon. I'm mostly a VATS killer, DTC killer, EVAP killer, EGR killer, Power Enrichment dabbler and an RPM changer. Making big changes to fueling and airflow is beyond my limited skills.
Maybe HP Tuners will be better for you because its tune repository will likely have better support for what you need.
Rick
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id say its about as modified as an NA engine can get lol. ported heads, headers , 11.0:1 pistons, cam, and the reason for the swap is the install of a e tec intake and holley tb. I wont have any problem tuning it once I get my head around the software.
the express van "should" work on the p01. im looking at a hpt tuners file right now that is p01, but it doesn't have any OS modifications. the p59 didn't come out until 2003, so the p01 was what ran the van in the first place. It sounds like im just going to have to wait for my mpvi to get here. which sucks. im not sure why all the tunerpro files for that os are all 1mb. maybe they used the extra space to add some functionality.
the express van "should" work on the p01. im looking at a hpt tuners file right now that is p01, but it doesn't have any OS modifications. the p59 didn't come out until 2003, so the p01 was what ran the van in the first place. It sounds like im just going to have to wait for my mpvi to get here. which sucks. im not sure why all the tunerpro files for that os are all 1mb. maybe they used the extra space to add some functionality.
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All of the Express van BIN files that I see stored at Gearhead EFI are one megabyte operating systems meant for a blue/green P59 PCM - won't work on your 0411. And it appears that you are going to need to segment swap an LS1/LS6 engine into a 512k red/blue operating system and most of those OS's with good XDF support are for 4.8. 5.3 and 6.0 liter engines - not your 5.7 liter engine.
How modified is your highly modified 5.7? Your modified 4L60E is of less importance to me right now. My tuning experience for highly modified engines is about zero so you are likely going to need somebody else very soon. I'm mostly a VATS killer, DTC killer, EVAP killer, EGR killer, Power Enrichment dabbler and an RPM changer. Making big changes to fueling and airflow is beyond my limited skills.
Maybe HP Tuners will be better for you because its tune repository will likely have better support for what you need.
Rick
How modified is your highly modified 5.7? Your modified 4L60E is of less importance to me right now. My tuning experience for highly modified engines is about zero so you are likely going to need somebody else very soon. I'm mostly a VATS killer, DTC killer, EVAP killer, EGR killer, Power Enrichment dabbler and an RPM changer. Making big changes to fueling and airflow is beyond my limited skills.
Maybe HP Tuners will be better for you because its tune repository will likely have better support for what you need.
Rick
i have a 2002 avalanche 5.3 Ls/vortec with de-pinned harness, going into a 84 cutlass using Th350 tranny and only the precat O2 sensors.
Im ready to tune the PCM, I only need the VATs removed, electric fans enabled and any codes removed.[ because of the de-pinned harness do i need to make pcm changes for all the deleted sensors?]
I bought the OBD2 Lx dongle and can pair it with Windows 10 bluetooth but neither of the android phones i tried would register LsDroid and i think the creator was getting snotty with me so, not needing teenage girl type drama in my life, I installed PCMHammer instead and it read my pcm first try thru windows 10 bluetooth and the dongle.
I joined Gearhead efi , registered but theyre taking their time approving me.
My OS ID is 12212156 according to Pcm Hammer..
1. so as i understand it, i need the relevant XDF to format Tunerpro properly, correct?
2. then i need a Bin file for my 12200411 pcm that has the vats removed and electric fans enabled, correct? or i use tunerpro to delete vats and enable electric fans, then save as NAME bin file
3. then transfer that saved tune to Pcm Hammer and it can write that bin to my pcm?
Do i have the basic steps correct here?
if so, ive found the bored truck guys github repository but couldnt figure out how to download or import their XDF properly
so can someone go thru the steps in text or point me at a relevant yt video using pcmhammer and tunerpro?
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Hello,
I see that you are in California and you are swapping into an 84 Cutlass. Will that be legal with the emissions control referee in California?
To get LS Droid to work, you might need to change the firmware inside the OBD Link device and then avoid upgrading it. My OBD Link MX device is at least 2-3 versions older than what is publicly current for it. This, I believe, is why the developer now despises Android and has started full on Windows support for what used to be the LS Droid code base.
If your current PCM already is running the 12212156 OS BIN, you need to look no farther for a BIN. That 2156 BIN has a richly featured and readily available XDF that can do absolutely everything you need. Just for grins, I would save it off before we start modifying a different copy of it so that if you make mistakes, you always have a pristine copy of 2156 as your ace in the hole.
Tuner Pro RT will also need a checksum file added to your installation of it and this file is on the Tuner Pro RT web site.
You will be doing all that you require above to your copy of 2156. Open your 2156 BIN, open your 2156 XDF, open up Parameter Tree view in TP RT and get to work. If you need the latest version 6 (I think) XDF definitions file for 2156, I can send that to you.
I keep a long list of things to delete in the tune and most will apply to your situation, some maybe not. PM me and I will send you the list. I take no credit for the list as I got it from the web though I have supplemented it somewhat.
Bench harness with PCM Hammer I hope??? I don't like writing to the PCM in the vehicle because of possible bus traffic noise and less control over the vehicle battery voltage dropping - I use a three amp Radio Shack power supply. I now do all of my PCM tuning using the VX Diag VCX "Nano" J2534 device on a USB cable. It is four times faster at reading and writing compared to using my Bluetooth MX device with none of the Bluetooth muss & fuss. And PCM Hammer lashes up to it with ease.
Rick
I see that you are in California and you are swapping into an 84 Cutlass. Will that be legal with the emissions control referee in California?
To get LS Droid to work, you might need to change the firmware inside the OBD Link device and then avoid upgrading it. My OBD Link MX device is at least 2-3 versions older than what is publicly current for it. This, I believe, is why the developer now despises Android and has started full on Windows support for what used to be the LS Droid code base.
If your current PCM already is running the 12212156 OS BIN, you need to look no farther for a BIN. That 2156 BIN has a richly featured and readily available XDF that can do absolutely everything you need. Just for grins, I would save it off before we start modifying a different copy of it so that if you make mistakes, you always have a pristine copy of 2156 as your ace in the hole.
Tuner Pro RT will also need a checksum file added to your installation of it and this file is on the Tuner Pro RT web site.
You will be doing all that you require above to your copy of 2156. Open your 2156 BIN, open your 2156 XDF, open up Parameter Tree view in TP RT and get to work. If you need the latest version 6 (I think) XDF definitions file for 2156, I can send that to you.
I keep a long list of things to delete in the tune and most will apply to your situation, some maybe not. PM me and I will send you the list. I take no credit for the list as I got it from the web though I have supplemented it somewhat.
Bench harness with PCM Hammer I hope??? I don't like writing to the PCM in the vehicle because of possible bus traffic noise and less control over the vehicle battery voltage dropping - I use a three amp Radio Shack power supply. I now do all of my PCM tuning using the VX Diag VCX "Nano" J2534 device on a USB cable. It is four times faster at reading and writing compared to using my Bluetooth MX device with none of the Bluetooth muss & fuss. And PCM Hammer lashes up to it with ease.
Rick
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hello,
i see that you are in california and you are swapping into an 84 cutlass. Will that be legal with the emissions control referee in california? In my case ca stand for canada, my province is as big as your entire usa west coast with only a million people so we dont have a smog problem :-)
to get ls droid to work, you might need to change the firmware inside the obd link device and then avoid upgrading it. My obd link mx device is at least 2-3 versions older than what is publicly current for it. This, i believe, is why the developer now despises android and has started full on windows support for what used to be the ls droid code base. I think the creator of ls droid said i would have to download his legacy older version of ls droid to get it to work. But i like pcm hammer so far, i like stuff that just works right out of the box without jumping thru hoops
if your current pcm already is running the 12212156 os bin, you need to look no farther for a bin. That 2156 bin has a richly featured and readily available xdf that can do absolutely everything you need. Just for grins, i would save it off before we start modifying a different copy of it so that if you make mistakes, you always have a pristine copy of 2156 as your ace in the hole. Yes, good idea to save an unmodified copy
tuner pro rt will also need a checksum file added to your installation of it and this file is on the tuner pro rt web site.
You will be doing all that you require above to your copy of 2156. Open your 2156 bin, open your 2156 xdf, open up parameter tree view in tp rt and get to work. If you need the latest version 6 (i think) xdf definitions file for 2156, i can send that to you. I will pm you
i keep a long list of things to delete in the tune and most will apply to your situation, some maybe not. Pm me and i will send you the list. I take no credit for the list as i got it from the web though i have supplemented it somewhat.
Bench harness with pcm hammer i hope??? Yup i made my own bench harness and brought the pcm and car battery into my office so no oterh traffic or drains on the battery. I don't like writing to the pcm in the vehicle because of possible bus traffic noise and less control over the vehicle battery voltage dropping - i use a three amp radio shack power supply. I now do all of my pcm tuning using the vx diag vcx "nano" j2534 device on a usb cable. It is four times faster at reading and writing compared to using my bluetooth mx device with none of the bluetooth muss & fuss. And pcm hammer lashes up to it with ease.
The obd2 costs us $130 cdn so i would prefer to use it if possible.
Is tunerpro rt the paid version? If so what does it do that free version doesnt do?
Rick
i see that you are in california and you are swapping into an 84 cutlass. Will that be legal with the emissions control referee in california? In my case ca stand for canada, my province is as big as your entire usa west coast with only a million people so we dont have a smog problem :-)
to get ls droid to work, you might need to change the firmware inside the obd link device and then avoid upgrading it. My obd link mx device is at least 2-3 versions older than what is publicly current for it. This, i believe, is why the developer now despises android and has started full on windows support for what used to be the ls droid code base. I think the creator of ls droid said i would have to download his legacy older version of ls droid to get it to work. But i like pcm hammer so far, i like stuff that just works right out of the box without jumping thru hoops
if your current pcm already is running the 12212156 os bin, you need to look no farther for a bin. That 2156 bin has a richly featured and readily available xdf that can do absolutely everything you need. Just for grins, i would save it off before we start modifying a different copy of it so that if you make mistakes, you always have a pristine copy of 2156 as your ace in the hole. Yes, good idea to save an unmodified copy
tuner pro rt will also need a checksum file added to your installation of it and this file is on the tuner pro rt web site.
You will be doing all that you require above to your copy of 2156. Open your 2156 bin, open your 2156 xdf, open up parameter tree view in tp rt and get to work. If you need the latest version 6 (i think) xdf definitions file for 2156, i can send that to you. I will pm you
i keep a long list of things to delete in the tune and most will apply to your situation, some maybe not. Pm me and i will send you the list. I take no credit for the list as i got it from the web though i have supplemented it somewhat.
Bench harness with pcm hammer i hope??? Yup i made my own bench harness and brought the pcm and car battery into my office so no oterh traffic or drains on the battery. I don't like writing to the pcm in the vehicle because of possible bus traffic noise and less control over the vehicle battery voltage dropping - i use a three amp radio shack power supply. I now do all of my pcm tuning using the vx diag vcx "nano" j2534 device on a usb cable. It is four times faster at reading and writing compared to using my bluetooth mx device with none of the bluetooth muss & fuss. And pcm hammer lashes up to it with ease.
The obd2 costs us $130 cdn so i would prefer to use it if possible.
Is tunerpro rt the paid version? If so what does it do that free version doesnt do?
Rick
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ok i figured it was something like that.
i was able to read entire pcm with PcmHammer and save as stock bin.
then i got a 2156 XDF for tunerpro and then i used TunerPro to delete VATs, and enable 2 electric fans to come on at 210/215 and go off at 190 but when i went to save it as modified bin file, it saved, but it gave me some error code saying some checksum files may be missing.
what does that mean?
i was able to read entire pcm with PcmHammer and save as stock bin.
then i got a 2156 XDF for tunerpro and then i used TunerPro to delete VATs, and enable 2 electric fans to come on at 210/215 and go off at 190 but when i went to save it as modified bin file, it saved, but it gave me some error code saying some checksum files may be missing.
what does that mean?
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A little late i know but maybe will help someone in future….
I had a very similar situation as yours, using an obdlink lx purchased in 2021(likely new firmware), pcm hammer and the base tunerpro while saving any written changes i would get the checksum indicator, if i flashed that bin the vehicle would not start.
I installed an older version of tunerpro off of the website, version 5.00.9209.00, and right or wrong for whatever reason everything has played nice since, hope this can be of some help
I had a very similar situation as yours, using an obdlink lx purchased in 2021(likely new firmware), pcm hammer and the base tunerpro while saving any written changes i would get the checksum indicator, if i flashed that bin the vehicle would not start.
I installed an older version of tunerpro off of the website, version 5.00.9209.00, and right or wrong for whatever reason everything has played nice since, hope this can be of some help
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Hello,
I see that you are in California and you are swapping into an 84 Cutlass. Will that be legal with the emissions control referee in California?
To get LS Droid to work, you might need to change the firmware inside the OBD Link device and then avoid upgrading it. My OBD Link MX device is at least 2-3 versions older than what is publicly current for it. This, I believe, is why the developer now despises Android and has started full on Windows support for what used to be the LS Droid code base.
If your current PCM already is running the 12212156 OS BIN, you need to look no farther for a BIN. That 2156 BIN has a richly featured and readily available XDF that can do absolutely everything you need. Just for grins, I would save it off before we start modifying a different copy of it so that if you make mistakes, you always have a pristine copy of 2156 as your ace in the hole.
Tuner Pro RT will also need a checksum file added to your installation of it and this file is on the Tuner Pro RT web site.
You will be doing all that you require above to your copy of 2156. Open your 2156 BIN, open your 2156 XDF, open up Parameter Tree view in TP RT and get to work. If you need the latest version 6 (I think) XDF definitions file for 2156, I can send that to you.
I keep a long list of things to delete in the tune and most will apply to your situation, some maybe not. PM me and I will send you the list. I take no credit for the list as I got it from the web though I have supplemented it somewhat.
Bench harness with PCM Hammer I hope??? I don't like writing to the PCM in the vehicle because of possible bus traffic noise and less control over the vehicle battery voltage dropping - I use a three amp Radio Shack power supply. I now do all of my PCM tuning using the VX Diag VCX "Nano" J2534 device on a USB cable. It is four times faster at reading and writing compared to using my Bluetooth MX device with none of the Bluetooth muss & fuss. And PCM Hammer lashes up to it with ease.
Rick
I see that you are in California and you are swapping into an 84 Cutlass. Will that be legal with the emissions control referee in California?
To get LS Droid to work, you might need to change the firmware inside the OBD Link device and then avoid upgrading it. My OBD Link MX device is at least 2-3 versions older than what is publicly current for it. This, I believe, is why the developer now despises Android and has started full on Windows support for what used to be the LS Droid code base.
If your current PCM already is running the 12212156 OS BIN, you need to look no farther for a BIN. That 2156 BIN has a richly featured and readily available XDF that can do absolutely everything you need. Just for grins, I would save it off before we start modifying a different copy of it so that if you make mistakes, you always have a pristine copy of 2156 as your ace in the hole.
Tuner Pro RT will also need a checksum file added to your installation of it and this file is on the Tuner Pro RT web site.
You will be doing all that you require above to your copy of 2156. Open your 2156 BIN, open your 2156 XDF, open up Parameter Tree view in TP RT and get to work. If you need the latest version 6 (I think) XDF definitions file for 2156, I can send that to you.
I keep a long list of things to delete in the tune and most will apply to your situation, some maybe not. PM me and I will send you the list. I take no credit for the list as I got it from the web though I have supplemented it somewhat.
Bench harness with PCM Hammer I hope??? I don't like writing to the PCM in the vehicle because of possible bus traffic noise and less control over the vehicle battery voltage dropping - I use a three amp Radio Shack power supply. I now do all of my PCM tuning using the VX Diag VCX "Nano" J2534 device on a USB cable. It is four times faster at reading and writing compared to using my Bluetooth MX device with none of the Bluetooth muss & fuss. And PCM Hammer lashes up to it with ease.
Rick
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What PCM are you using for your 2012 5.3 motor? Some of the programs you note above have only recently begun to support PCM devices newer than the P01 and the P59. The P10, P12, the P12b and a few others - maybe the P38 or the E67. Lots of movement here in this area of "PCM Hacking" . . . . hint, hint.
Your vocabulary here should also include the program called "Universal Patcher". It can correct your self-inflicted checksum errors and I think it now has the ability to create OS definition files called "XDF's". But yes, those programs you ask about above are what you will also need.
What PCM operating system do you desire to run? Try to stick with an OS that already has a richly featured XDF. Otherwise, you will be making your own XDF.
Rick
Your vocabulary here should also include the program called "Universal Patcher". It can correct your self-inflicted checksum errors and I think it now has the ability to create OS definition files called "XDF's". But yes, those programs you ask about above are what you will also need.
What PCM operating system do you desire to run? Try to stick with an OS that already has a richly featured XDF. Otherwise, you will be making your own XDF.
Rick
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What PCM are you using for your 2012 5.3 motor? Some of the programs you note above have only recently begun to support PCM devices newer than the P01 and the P59. The P10, P12, the P12b and a few others - maybe the P38 or the E67. Lots of movement here in this area of "PCM Hacking" . . . . hint, hint.
Your vocabulary here should also include the program called "Universal Patcher". It can correct your self-inflicted checksum errors and I think it now has the ability to create OS definition files called "XDF's". But yes, those programs you ask about above are what you will also need.
What PCM operating system do you desire to run? Try to stick with an OS that already has a richly featured XDF. Otherwise, you will be making your own XDF.
Rick
Your vocabulary here should also include the program called "Universal Patcher". It can correct your self-inflicted checksum errors and I think it now has the ability to create OS definition files called "XDF's". But yes, those programs you ask about above are what you will also need.
What PCM operating system do you desire to run? Try to stick with an OS that already has a richly featured XDF. Otherwise, you will be making your own XDF.
Rick