ACES Blackjack EFI standalone
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ACES Blackjack EFI standalone I have a 5.3 LM7 ,mild cam in a 79' Camaro.
I'm about to pull the trigger on this system. Question is: Does anyone have experience or
second-hand knowledge about the reliability, and usability of this product.
I have done a bit reading all the reviews online. Seems to be all the usual questions.
A lot of people having install problems, but this happens with others I have looked into.
The reviews are 2+years old. Any opinions, reviews.
I'm about to pull the trigger on this system. Question is: Does anyone have experience or
second-hand knowledge about the reliability, and usability of this product.
I have done a bit reading all the reviews online. Seems to be all the usual questions.
A lot of people having install problems, but this happens with others I have looked into.
The reviews are 2+years old. Any opinions, reviews.
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Sorry, but I don't understand your desire to purchase a system for which there is nearly zero help on YouTube. Aces makes a few very basic videos, but I didn't see anything in-depth by anyone. One customer's YouTube summary from last year is ""System is well made, but lacks any true tuning ability in the software. The tuning section of software is not live, any edits have to be pushed to ecu. No tuning traces, no tuning bubbles, no datalog overlays. Would highly recommend if those things resolved, but not at this time." Even the Aces videos have very few views.
Why not just stick with a GM system or Holley Terminator X. With either you have a community of hundreds of thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of forum threads, thousands of in-depth YouTube videos, some with hundreds of thousands of views.
Yes there are other less-popular high end systems, but they are mostly for extreme or unusual engines.
I'm not saying its a bad system, but there is little/no online support.
I Googled "aces fuel injection forum" to see if they even have an online forum and it appears they do not. However many other car forums mention them, but not in a nice way.
You just need a "411" PCM, a $200 harness from ebay, injectors (not from ebay!) and HP Tuners and you will have a super reliable system with infinite support available here, on YouTube and elsewhere.
Why not just stick with a GM system or Holley Terminator X. With either you have a community of hundreds of thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of forum threads, thousands of in-depth YouTube videos, some with hundreds of thousands of views.
Yes there are other less-popular high end systems, but they are mostly for extreme or unusual engines.
I'm not saying its a bad system, but there is little/no online support.
I Googled "aces fuel injection forum" to see if they even have an online forum and it appears they do not. However many other car forums mention them, but not in a nice way.
You just need a "411" PCM, a $200 harness from ebay, injectors (not from ebay!) and HP Tuners and you will have a super reliable system with infinite support available here, on YouTube and elsewhere.
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When I built my LS Miata, I went with a GM PCM because it was the easy button. If I had it to do over, knowing what I know now, I’d go Holley. The GM stuff has a zillion interacting settings, and even with HP Tuners, you have access to only about (I hear) 10% of them. The Holley stuff is self tuning to some degree, and is only as complicated as it needs to be to run your engine. I’d switch, but my tune is finally pretty much done, and I don’t feel like redoing the harness over a religious objection.
Last edited by grubinski; Feb 13, 2024 at 08:15 PM.
It's junk, the only people that say otherwise have no idea what they are talking about and very apparently haven't used anything else. Download the software and give it a look, you'll want to shoot yourself in the face.
A Term X blows it out of the water for not much more but a factory PCM would work just fine as well for this combo.
A Term X blows it out of the water for not much more but a factory PCM would work just fine as well for this combo.
I said the same already but I am "biased" since I tune and sell holley. People that dont tune are going to argue and tell you how great it is or there friends uncles cousin installed it and it worked great.
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Lt1swap.com has some great info on converting a stock harness to standalone.
for boost you have several options when using a p01 or p59
hptuners
efilive
boostOS with pcm hammer
They are all pretty similar in this context with each offering slightly different costs/features/etc. One isn’t necessarily better than another, just different.
for boost you have several options when using a p01 or p59
hptuners
efilive
boostOS with pcm hammer
They are all pretty similar in this context with each offering slightly different costs/features/etc. One isn’t necessarily better than another, just different.
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Aces EFI Hi folks
Just saw this post, sorry I did not see it before. I went thru the Aces EFI set up on the complete Jackpot system. It was a nightmare. I got the complete system, coils, injectors, manifold, everything.
I got it all installed on my stock LS1 with a manual trany and it ran like crap. It ran super rich, it would not learn, kept going in and out of closed loop. It was showing faults they told me not to worry about it. It fouled out a set of plugs in about 6 miles.
I called the tec support, they told me to hire a tuner and that they (Aces) could not fix the problem. They also told me that their system only learns the fuel tables that's it. I tried to explain that they advertise a "self learn" system.
It did not seem to matter. I finally had to return the system to them on my own dime......
Just food for thought.
Just saw this post, sorry I did not see it before. I went thru the Aces EFI set up on the complete Jackpot system. It was a nightmare. I got the complete system, coils, injectors, manifold, everything.
I got it all installed on my stock LS1 with a manual trany and it ran like crap. It ran super rich, it would not learn, kept going in and out of closed loop. It was showing faults they told me not to worry about it. It fouled out a set of plugs in about 6 miles.
I called the tec support, they told me to hire a tuner and that they (Aces) could not fix the problem. They also told me that their system only learns the fuel tables that's it. I tried to explain that they advertise a "self learn" system.
It did not seem to matter. I finally had to return the system to them on my own dime......
Just food for thought.
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All ecus can only ‘learn” fuel and that is a bit of a misnomer at best. You still need to build the afr target table for it to ‘learn’ to.
i still wouldn’t touch one of those ecus but in this case unfortunately I don’t think any ecu would have made you happy with its ‘self learning’ if you expect it to learn everything.
i still wouldn’t touch one of those ecus but in this case unfortunately I don’t think any ecu would have made you happy with its ‘self learning’ if you expect it to learn everything.