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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 07:44 PM
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Hey gang, I’ve got a coworker in a predicament. Long story short he changed out his cat y pipe on his 2007 Silverado with a walker EPA cat setup not knowing the truck is CARB compliant. He is now getting a 430 Catalyst efficiency code with the brand new cats. Is there a way to change the ecu programming to not look for the stricter “California bullshit”? We live in Arizona and epa compliance is all that’s required but he can’t keep throwing codes.
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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 08:12 PM
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You might have one or both bad rear O2 sensors.
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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 08:17 PM
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They have been replaced already with good Delphi units.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 12:10 AM
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Why were the original cats changed? I'm betting there is a problem that predates the change.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 08:48 AM
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Why were the original cats changed? I'm betting there is a problem that predates the change.
He originally had a 420 code that popped up which is drivers side cat. He decided to replace it because he had a little antifreeze spill down drivers side when he put a new 5.3 engine in the truck and thought maybr the original was ruined and it had 200k on it.

He talked with a local shop and they asked if he installed the correct cats. Apparently it happens a lot and the incorrect cats can throw the catalyst efficiency code because they aren't as efficient as the ones removed.

We are wondering if something can be changed in hp tuners to not meet CARB requirements.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 10:01 AM
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Aftermarket cats are never going to behave the same as factory cats, that's what's causing your P0420 code. It has nothing to do with a CARB tune vs an EPA tune, there is no such thing/difference. You can either switch out the aftermarket catted y-pipe for an OEM one or you can just disable codes.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 10:36 AM
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Aftermarket cats are never going to behave the same as factory cats, that's what's causing your P0420 code. It has nothing to do with a CARB tune vs an EPA tune, there is no such thing/difference. You can either switch out the aftermarket catted y-pipe for an OEM one or you can just disable codes.
There is definitely a difference and it's over $1000 difference between aftermarket CARB compliant and aftermarket EPA compliant.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 1964SS
There is definitely a difference and it's over $1000 difference between aftermarket CARB compliant and aftermarket EPA compliant.
It sounds like you have all the answers, except there is no tune difference and that's what matters and it's why it's throwing codes with aftermarket cats. So we are back to what I originally said to do to fix it.
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Originally Posted by NicD
It sounds like you have all the answers, except there is no tune difference and that's what matters and it's why it's throwing codes with aftermarket cats. So we are back to what I originally said to do to fix it.
No I definitely don't have the answers. Are they charging 3 times the cost for the exact same part that has a CARB stamp on it?

The shop is telling him his truck is CARB compliant and his new cats are not the CARB compliant ones required.
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Originally Posted by 1964SS
No I definitely don't have the answers. Are they charging 3 times the cost for the exact same part that has a CARB stamp on it?
The shop is telling him his truck is CARB compliant and his new cats are not the CARB compliant ones required.
I don't care what the shop is telling him and I don't care what somebody charges for CARB stamped cats, I'm telling you what the problem is and how to fix it. The rest is pure bullshit.
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Contact Cordes performance in AZ. Rick Hollenbeck is there and that guy knows his stuff.

Maybe just buy some old used OEM cats?
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 11:34 AM
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Are the CARB compliant aftermarket cats **** to?
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Contact Cordes performance in AZ. Rick Hollenbeck is there and that guy knows his stuff.
Rick does special project design and manufacturing projects there, he isn't going to tell him any different than what I have. I do the tuning down there and know exactly what the OP is dealing with and I've told him how to fix it.
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Originally Posted by 1964SS
Are the CARB compliant aftermarket cats **** to?
Which ones? There plenty of "compliant" cats that are still going to trip codes because they don't work the same as OEM cats do. Saying they are carb compliant means they spent the money to get them certified and nothing else.
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Originally Posted by NicD
Which ones? There plenty of "compliant" cats that are still going to trip codes because they don't work the same as OEM cats do. Saying they are carb compliant means they spent the money to get them certified and nothing else.
He was looking at the Walker and Davico. If they are junk he will have to find an oem.
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