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Old 08-05-2004 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Your not the only one with low numbers, I tuned a 2002 SS a few weeks ago and he only made 404HP & 365 TQ with a A/F of 12.5! Timing was at 28.

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TSP 231 237 Cam
PP LS6 Heads
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SLP LT with cats
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Lid

I did a thread in the PCM section about how much a MAF should flow and I was guessing his heads aren't flowing like they should...

Thats a good point.A set of heads that just don't work with the setup can do what you describe.Also alot of LS6 type heads I have tuned like alot more timing than stock ported heads.Another thing could be a restriction in the exhaust side.I ran a SLP dual/dual in my Firehawk and it restricted it 35rwhp compared to the cutout on back to back runs.
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Your not the only one with low numbers, I tuned a 2002 SS a few weeks ago and he only made 404HP & 365 TQ with a A/F of 12.5! Timing was at 28.

He has:

TSP 231 237 Cam
PP LS6 Heads
Pulley
SLP LT with cats
Catback
Lid

I did a thread in the PCM section about how much a MAF should flow and I was guessing his heads aren't flowing like they should...
That MAF post was intresting. My MAf was reading 41 as well. However I saw my heads flow 301 at 600. A friend of mine does heads and has a flo bench so I had him match the setting terry used and we saw 301. It was on a 3.90 bore and I think 25.

I did make one pull open headers naturally I made more power. I'll have to look for that log and see where the maf was.

You say timing was at 28 were you seeing knock any higher than that?
Old 08-06-2004 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I would not go leaner than 12.5:1 at WOT on a Dynojet, it will be leaner than that under load aka on the street.

Well maybe do that underdrive pulley too. I think it's okay to compare numbers to other on the forum but I mostly look at the other cars that use the same dyno as me.
The next thing I'm adding is 100 shot. I'm tired of adding stuff and losing HP or making 2 more hp. i would really love to sell this motor and build a blower motor.
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Who's car was that?

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The car was from Dayton area.

If I remember correctly, I think I tried 26 & 28 and it didn't make a difference. Technically, his car should have made more power than my current set up. I didn't do anything different on my tune to get my 423HP & 396 TQ.
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After reading your MAF post and this one, perhaps my heads are NOT matched very well with my cam. And with 15K on my ISKY springs ( did you go with the same ones? ), perhaps a new set of heads with Patriot Dual Golds is in order.
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Just to throw this out there the Z06 runs 43 degrees of timing WOT naturally aspirated on 91 octane. Gotta love that low compression LOL. Just for comparison, there is almost no power difference from 35 degrees to 43 degrees.
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Your not the only one with low numbers, I tuned a 2002 SS a few weeks ago and he only made 404HP & 365 TQ with a A/F of 12.5! Timing was at 28.

He has:

TSP 231 237 Cam
PP LS6 Heads
Pulley
SLP LT with cats
Catback
Lid...
No ported throttle body with catalytic converters. An intake and exhaust restriction. Big exhaust duration on this cam with an exhaust restriction. Just a thought . . .

Lethal . . . that 10% PE with no change is w e i r d. Post what happens after you swap the pcm's.
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Will do I'm going to get the pcm today and have it flashed on Wed. Not sure when I'll make it back to the dyno though.

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