What is the Purpose of resetting your L Term trims?
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What is the Purpose of resetting your L Term trims?
What does this do?and why would I want to do it?Do you reset it at Idle? driving down the road my L Terms are in the Neg like 5.0 to 6.0%,Will it mess with wot?I am low on power from mid to High end....Thanks guys...Scott
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It just speeds the LTFT re-learn process. If they are way off +15 from a bad tune and you put a good tune in the PCM, it will still use the LTFT Correction for fueling and make you think your tune is off until it re-learns your new tune and brings them back to 0 (as this may take many miles of driving). So you want to start it off from 0 to see if your tune is making it negative or positive.
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Basically what he said... LTRIMS are the average amount of fuel that the PCM has to add or remove based on O2 input to maintain 14.7 AFR ...
You want your LTRIMs to be 0 or as close as possible to 0 on the negative side in order to get a good tune... if the LTRIMS are > 0 then when you go WOT they lock in and the PCM adds fuel...
You want your LTRIMs to be 0 or as close as possible to 0 on the negative side in order to get a good tune... if the LTRIMS are > 0 then when you go WOT they lock in and the PCM adds fuel...
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Originally Posted by Pro Mouse
My L Terms are -4.7 to -6.1 at idle in park,but they go up -10 when I am driving down the rd.Is this aceptable?
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Yes, a few stock cars that I have checked were like that so I'm guessing GM knows what they are doing!
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Great to see you Bill,The VE table rocks and car is starting good,I dont know if you seen my post ?but I IAC was bad,put another one in and I was able to tune it right in Thanks! I was thinking about resetting them I just reflashed pcm,When resetting do you do it in park at idle or driving?
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From what I have been reading the LT's are just an average of the ST's. The ST's are always moving because they are real time. With that in mind I am starting to think that one should be more concerned with the real time data than the average of it. That's why the LT's do not move up or down as fast because of the constant averaging. Now how would one go about tuning using the ST data?
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Originally Posted by ram-it
From what I have been reading the LT's are just an average of the ST's. The ST's are always moving because they are real time. With that in mind I am starting to think that one should be more concerned with the real time data than the average of it. That's why the LT's do not move up or down as fast because of the constant averaging. Now how would one go about tuning using the ST data?
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That's what I was thinking but what are the ST's suppose to look like? I know the LT's are negative and go to 0 at WOT but nothing on the ST's. Would it be the same and what would the max values want to be?
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Originally Posted by ram-it
That's what I was thinking but what are the ST's suppose to look like? I know the LT's are negative and go to 0 at WOT but nothing on the ST's. Would it be the same and what would the max values want to be?
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Originally Posted by Magic Chicken
but I highly doubt you'll get them all negative without having some seriously negative LT's.
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Okay I did a quick scan. Car was cold so this would probably change as the car gets warmer but at idle the LT's were -1.6 and ST's stayed at 0. I know at temp the ST's jump around but it was interesting to note that when cold even when I rev'd it a little they stayed right at 0. I will see what they do next time its warm.
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that's because you're running open loop when cold... when you first start the car you have to wait for it to switch to closed loop before you really care about the LTs and STs... car could be 100% warmed up... shut it off and turn it on and it'll do the same thing