Can my BIN have KR changed and allow me to use full VE table?
10-01-2004, 11:50 AM
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Can my BIN have KR changed and allow me to use full VE table? I am just wondering if my stock HP Tuners BIN file can be changed to have a lowered KR sensitivity and allow me to use the full primary VE table. And more importantly who do I have to pay to do it, and how much will it cost me?
10-01-2004, 12:03 PM
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You and I are in the same boat (I want to use the primary table also). I have asked about this and the answer i got was we need a new OS if this is done with our existing cable it will be out of spec for the year vehicle. I am not even sure you can get away with it since yuo are a 98 and used the old style PCM
My SD tune is comming along fine what bugs me is there are some cells I have no access to because the sec table moves in steps of 10 where the primary table moves in steps of 5
My SD tune is comming along fine what bugs me is there are some cells I have no access to because the sec table moves in steps of 10 where the primary table moves in steps of 5
10-01-2004, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
You and I are in the same boat (I want to use the primary table also). I have asked about this and the answer i got was we need a new OS if this is done with our existing cable it will be out of spec for the year vehicle. I am not even sure you can get away with it since yuo are a 98 and used the old style PCM
My SD tune is comming along fine what bugs me is there are some cells I have no access to because the sec table moves in steps of 10 where the primary table moves in steps of 5
My SD tune is comming along fine what bugs me is there are some cells I have no access to because the sec table moves in steps of 10 where the primary table moves in steps of 5
10-01-2004, 12:31 PM
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The Sd tune is comming along fine. yes the MAF is still in the tract I am removing it tonight and replacing with some PVC then doing some more loggin hopefully the 85mm lid to TB will lean it out some on the cells i cant reach....
10-01-2004, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Another_User
I am just wondering if my stock HP Tuners BIN file can be changed to have a lowered KR sensitivity and allow me to use the full primary VE table. And more importantly who do I have to pay to do it, and how much will it cost me?
No idea on the VE table question. I'm guessing that MAF unplugged = secondary VE table used. I suppose there might be a way to trick the PCM into thinking the MAF is still there and use the primary VE. Maybe a little gizmo that you hook into the MAF plug that feeds some calculated values into the PCM to keep it happy??? Somebody could make a nice buck on a gizmo like that - maybe a little black box that takes the MAP and RPM signals from the engine (like a VE table) and feeds a calculated airflow (actually MAF frequency) value into the MAF sensor input to the PCM.
Have you tried deleting all the MAF codes?
10-01-2004, 03:28 PM
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Oh I am good on the MAF codes. No check engine light. My secondary VE is working great, I would just feel a teensy better using the primary. They are two seperate questions. Unfortunately this version of HP Tuners does not allow you to set the noise floor...and for some reason HP Tuners seems to have some reservations about letting us change it. I have no idea why...there are a million ways to mess up your car with their software, that option should not be any more risky. I guess what I was fishing for is if the PRO version of HP Tuners lets you get more into everything, and maybe a tuner could change my stock BIN so that I could make all my tunes based on that one with an updated knock sensor sensitivity. Unless one of the HP Tuners guys would like to chime in and tell me if they will be incorporating this change into the next version...(hint hint).
HumpinSS...where did you find 3.5" OD PVC? You would like my MAF replacement. I am running a .125" wall 3.5" OD aluminum tube that I had custom cut. Very very durable. I have been toying with the notion of having some powder coated and selling them online. It fits perfectly in place of the MAF.
HumpinSS...where did you find 3.5" OD PVC? You would like my MAF replacement. I am running a .125" wall 3.5" OD aluminum tube that I had custom cut. Very very durable. I have been toying with the notion of having some powder coated and selling them online. It fits perfectly in place of the MAF.
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Originally Posted by Another_User
HumpinSS...where did you find 3.5" OD PVC? You would like my MAF replacement. I am running a .125" wall 3.5" OD aluminum tube that I had custom cut. Very very durable. I have been toying with the notion of having some powder coated and selling them online. It fits perfectly in place of the MAF.
Havent goen to home depot to look yet but by your response I am thinking I may be **** outta luck. where did you get teh tubing from?
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Looks like i will go ghetto style with some dryer duct. 
How long does it have to be i am thinking/hoping a longer fernco coupling will help
How long does it have to be i am thinking/hoping a longer fernco coupling will help
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10-01-2004, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by luv2spd
Another User, I've heard we'll be able to adjust kr sensitivity in ver 1.5. Is this different from what you've heard?
10-02-2004, 11:47 AM
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Send me your file, and I can see if there is anythign I can do with it. I have the Pro version. Havent messed with 98s much with HP only 3 cars, I remember those table in edit though.
If you send the PCM to receive a signal for the maf, its going to read that as MAF input.
If your missing rich cells becasue of resolution there should be a relatively easy way around that
If you send the PCM to receive a signal for the maf, its going to read that as MAF input.
If your missing rich cells becasue of resolution there should be a relatively easy way around that
10-03-2004, 10:00 AM
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If you send the PCM to receive a signal for the maf, its going to read that as MAF input.
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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
Send me your file, and I can see if there is anythign I can do with it. I have the Pro version. Havent messed with 98s much with HP only 3 cars, I remember those table in edit though.
If you send the PCM to receive a signal for the maf, its going to read that as MAF input.
If your missing rich cells becasue of resolution there should be a relatively easy way around that
If you send the PCM to receive a signal for the maf, its going to read that as MAF input.
If your missing rich cells becasue of resolution there should be a relatively easy way around that
The way around it is a different os (01-02) that uses the primary table in the event of a MAF failure... 00< used two tables with the secondary moving in steps of 10 rather than steps of 5.
