View Poll Results: Favorite Tuner
DiabloSport Predator
168
54.37%
SuperChips
18
5.83%
Hypertech Power Programmer
45
14.56%
Crane/Vinci Tuner
78
25.24%
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09-15-2006, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by slow
the SCT Xcalibrator can be programmed to delete codes, or anything else that any other tuning software does, using the stock OS.
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10-22-2006, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerTools
Is the VHP the same as the Crane PowerMax Tuner here?
If no, where do you get them? I'd like to pick up this line for our store at Tuner Tools.
If no, where do you get them? I'd like to pick up this line for our store at Tuner Tools.
10-25-2006, 11:47 AM
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mrr23, you seem to know your stuff about the Vinci so I was wondering if you could answer something for me. Ive read through all the threads from my "search" and found everything I needed to know execpt this: I plan on !EGR and !AIR. Will the Vinci tuner be able to delete these codes, and if not how would I be able to get them deleted ? 
10-25-2006, 07:22 PM
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it does not delete codes. it widens the parameters so as it should not set the SES light off. i have a friend of mine that had not cat and removed his EGR and AIR. he got no codes after installing the vinci tuner.
the only way actually delete the codes is with a full on editing software like hptuners, ls1edit, efilive.
the only way actually delete the codes is with a full on editing software like hptuners, ls1edit, efilive.
10-27-2006, 06:15 PM
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the hypertech i bought mine just for a 3.73 swap a few people on here said the tune sucks i have to disagree my car is also a 98 ta a4 the rfg tune is alittle agressive (it detonates on anything lower than 93 octane you can control the fans,gears listed are 273 323 342 373 and 410 4 levels of added shift firmness speedo and tire recalibrate a setting for regular gas(not used by me)speed limeter rpm limiter for only 350$ shipped (jegs)i wouldnt call it crap at all not been to dyno yet but when i do ill post charts.hypertech has charts on there site showing 26whp and 54ftlbs of tourqe my engine is stock internaly if you have alot of engine mods the crane is probably better or a custom tune on a daily driven stock engine i recomend the pp3 it also reads and clears dtc,s if you fix problem
11-30-2006, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
the hypertech i bought mine just for a 3.73 swap a few people on here said the tune sucks i have to disagree my car is also a 98 ta a4 the rfg tune is alittle agressive (it detonates on anything lower than 93 octane you can control the fans,gears listed are 273 323 342 373 and 410 4 levels of added shift firmness speedo and tire recalibrate a setting for regular gas(not used by me)speed limeter rpm limiter for only 350$ shipped (jegs)i wouldnt call it crap at all not been to dyno yet but when i do ill post charts.hypertech has charts on there site showing 26whp and 54ftlbs of tourqe my engine is stock internaly if you have alot of engine mods the crane is probably better or a custom tune on a daily driven stock engine i recomend the pp3 it also reads and clears dtc,s if you fix problem
There is no way in hell any tune is gonna unlock more than 20-25 ft/lbs on a stock/near stock LS1.
02-07-2007, 12:00 PM
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The vinci tuner is good about not throwing codes after !EGR. My plug for the EGR pump is dangling unplugged and no SES. Also, the rear 02s are dangling as well, no SES. Im only assuming its the same way for !AIR. Theres a lot of stuff in this programmer that they dont tell you about. The customer service is awesome too!
02-07-2007, 12:05 PM
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I remember hypertechs graphs from my old LT1 days. They're not advertising peak gains. But you know, the hypertech is a bunch of BS. I had the optimal hypertech car for their "tune" : 96Z M6 4.10 CAI, Borla, shorties, pullies, elec. water pump, etc.
Yeah, i got a better performance boost by turning off the A/C then i ever did with a Hypertech.
Yeah, i got a better performance boost by turning off the A/C then i ever did with a Hypertech.
02-07-2007, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
hypertech has charts on there site showing 26whp and 54ftlbs of tourqe my engine is stock internaly if you have alot of engine mods the crane is probably better or a custom tune on a daily driven stock engine i recomend the pp3 it also reads and clears dtc,s if you fix problem
Do what I did with my 2001 Z28. I bought 3 pulls on the dyno. The first with tune installed, the 2nd with it removed. The hypertech tune was doing nothing for me. However - the techs felt that my 13:5 to 14:1 a/f ratio was pushing the ecu into the low octane tables and my fuel and timing were being pulled from the matrix where the hypertech tune did not exist. A pro tuner did tell me that (even) the hypertech should have added some numbers so I believed him and the techs at the dyno shop. So my advice on the dyno pulls is to pay for the a/f testing as well.
02-08-2007, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by monsterbreather
what honestly, hp increase, can be gained from the predator on a stock ls1?
02-08-2007, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 01Z28M6
The dyno charts on Hypertech's web site do not show anything for the 98 Trans Am but there is one for the 99s. The 30025 shows a remarkable +26 hp at 5000 rpm and +54 lb ft of torque at 1250 rpm. Their 83006 model shows the same peaks. I believe 1999 was the year GM went with the 26 from 28 lb injectors. If I read these charts correctly and believe them; the comparison is with lower octane gas vs the high octane with the hypertech power tune.
Do what I did with my 2001 Z28. I bought 3 pulls on the dyno. The first with tune installed, the 2nd with it removed. The hypertech tune was doing nothing for me. However - the techs felt that my 13:5 to 14:1 a/f ratio was pushing the ecu into the low octane tables and my fuel and timing were being pulled from the matrix where the hypertech tune did not exist. A pro tuner did tell me that (even) the hypertech should have added some numbers so I believed him and the techs at the dyno shop. So my advice on the dyno pulls is to pay for the a/f testing as well.
Do what I did with my 2001 Z28. I bought 3 pulls on the dyno. The first with tune installed, the 2nd with it removed. The hypertech tune was doing nothing for me. However - the techs felt that my 13:5 to 14:1 a/f ratio was pushing the ecu into the low octane tables and my fuel and timing were being pulled from the matrix where the hypertech tune did not exist. A pro tuner did tell me that (even) the hypertech should have added some numbers so I believed him and the techs at the dyno shop. So my advice on the dyno pulls is to pay for the a/f testing as well.
Can you even load a dyno that low and see a gain like that? Was that at the flywheel? Still too high for flywheel even...
02-08-2007, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by silverbandit0996
will any of the handhelds delete the rear o2's?
02-08-2007, 11:08 AM
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I have a Predator and have for almost 3 years now. It can do anything the Vinci and Crane can and more.
Plus their tech guys read some of the posts on this site and are more than willing to help people out when they have questions. When was the last time you saw the actual Vinci/Crane or Hypertech people on here helping their customers out with questions or problems proactively?
If you have the old version of the Predators they were a little limited, Diablo came out with a new Firmware update that is free of charge to the original owner. The new firmware allows the Predator to do as much if not more than any of the other handhelds out there and if you have a custom tune done at a Diablo tuning facility you have the ability to adjust that tune as well.
Here are some of the things the Predator can do:
U7198 Stock Vehicle Tunes:
Performance Tune: Designed to add power and torque using premium fuel.
87 Octane Tune: (Trucks Only) Designed to add power and torque using low to mid grade fuel.
Factory Tune: Designed for users who wants to adjust parameters using the factory tune.
U7198 Specific Features:
Timing Table 1000-1800rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Idle (+ 500rpm / -300rpm)
Speed Limiters (Trucks Only)
Rev Limiters
RPM Shift Points
MPH Up and Downshifts
Shift Timing
Shift Pressure
Cooling Fan ON and OFF temperatures
Re-Calibrate Speedometer for Gear and Tire Size Changes
Torque Management abuse mode time limit ON/OFF
% torque reduction vs. RPM ON/OFF
Upshift torque reduction (all gears) ON/OFF
Adjust for different injector size
Disable P0420 and P0430 codes
Adjust COT enable temperature
Misfire Low rev
Misfire Low cyl
Misfire idle cyl
Enable/disable MPH, set high to disable
Disable P-codes: 0400,0401,0402, 0405, 1404 and 1409
Disable P-codes: 0410, 0412 and 0418
Disable P-codes: 0137, 0138, 0140, 0141, 0157, 0158, 0160 and 0161
All standard DiabloSport Predator features
Plus their tech guys read some of the posts on this site and are more than willing to help people out when they have questions. When was the last time you saw the actual Vinci/Crane or Hypertech people on here helping their customers out with questions or problems proactively?
If you have the old version of the Predators they were a little limited, Diablo came out with a new Firmware update that is free of charge to the original owner. The new firmware allows the Predator to do as much if not more than any of the other handhelds out there and if you have a custom tune done at a Diablo tuning facility you have the ability to adjust that tune as well.
Here are some of the things the Predator can do:
U7198 Stock Vehicle Tunes:
Performance Tune: Designed to add power and torque using premium fuel.
87 Octane Tune: (Trucks Only) Designed to add power and torque using low to mid grade fuel.
Factory Tune: Designed for users who wants to adjust parameters using the factory tune.
U7198 Specific Features:
Timing Table 1000-1800rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Idle (+ 500rpm / -300rpm)
Speed Limiters (Trucks Only)
Rev Limiters
RPM Shift Points
MPH Up and Downshifts
Shift Timing
Shift Pressure
Cooling Fan ON and OFF temperatures
Re-Calibrate Speedometer for Gear and Tire Size Changes
Torque Management abuse mode time limit ON/OFF
% torque reduction vs. RPM ON/OFF
Upshift torque reduction (all gears) ON/OFF
Adjust for different injector size
Disable P0420 and P0430 codes
Adjust COT enable temperature
Misfire Low rev
Misfire Low cyl
Misfire idle cyl
Enable/disable MPH, set high to disable
Disable P-codes: 0400,0401,0402, 0405, 1404 and 1409
Disable P-codes: 0410, 0412 and 0418
Disable P-codes: 0137, 0138, 0140, 0141, 0157, 0158, 0160 and 0161
All standard DiabloSport Predator features
02-08-2007, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sneakyws6
Plus their tech guys read some of the posts on this site and are more than willing to help people out when they have questions. When was the last time you saw the actual Vinci/Crane or Hypertech people on here helping their customers out with questions or problems proactively?
