PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo

Odd Misfire Problem with LS2

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 04:51 PM
  #1  
mikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,102
Likes: 0
From: Reading, PA
Default Odd Misfire Problem with LS2

Hey guys I got wierd one for you. 402 LS2 in a 2003 C5. Pump gas, AFR 225's, 234/234/115 Comp XE-R, 60lb Motrons, NGK TR6 (0.045), JP dual roller chain.

Runs great part throttle and idle. When going WOT at about 3200 rpms, it misfires and stumbles. Air fuel does not move from 12.6 and timing is 22 degrees.

Changed the obvious plugs and wires. At this point I'm at a loss. My next plan is to change the crank and cam sensors but I don't think that's it since they are not setting codes of any sort. I also verified good ground connections.

Has anyone had any problem with the JP chains? This is only the second time I'm using it. The first one worked fine.

Mikey
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 05:00 PM
  #2  
DrkPhx's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,519
Likes: 0
From: St. Michael, MN.
Default

Dumb question, but is it a LS2 specific chain?
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 05:28 PM
  #3  
mikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,102
Likes: 0
From: Reading, PA
Default

Yes, it's the new JP LS2 chain. I can watch the low-high and high-low counts and they do not seem to be affected when the misfire occurs. No cam postion codes either. It's a wierd one.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:55 AM
  #4  
speedracer5532's Avatar
9 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 920
Likes: 4
From: Berkeley Springs, WV
Default

Mike, a buddy of mine had a problem like this and he tried everything and finally he tried tightening the intake bolts and that solved the problem. It would be worth a try to make sure the intake isn't leaking.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:28 AM
  #5  
oange ss's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,241
Likes: 6
From: Texas
Default

his afr would spike lean if that were the case
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:42 AM
  #6  
mikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,102
Likes: 0
From: Reading, PA
Default

Originally Posted by oange ss
his afr would spike lean if that were the case
True. Also the fuel trims at part throttle would be + under high vac conditions. The trims are perfect.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:01 PM
  #7  
ozws6's Avatar
9 Second Club
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
From: Missouri
Default

I'm also experiencing a weird problem with my new LS2 setup. Sometimes between 5000-6000 rpm the motor will misfire/bog for a short period of time. It is a random issue. My 1st outing at the track a few week back it occured everytime in 2nd & 3rd gears (3 passes). On the drive home, I couldn't repeat it. My setup is a low comp (8.4:1) LS2 that I plan to install a turbo on later this year.

My AFR is rock steady at 12.8:1 (WB in the car). I'm running 42 lb/hr injectors, 255 lph pump, and the duty cycle is 65-67%. I'm confident I'm not having a fuel issue. I've changed plug wires and plugs (twice: TR5 @ 0.040" & 0.035"). No change. No PCM codes (thought it might be a crank or cam position sensor). I've check everything I can think of twice (the above, grounds, other sensors, etc...). When this occurs there is nothing out of the ordinary I can pull out of my HP Tuners logs. This one has got me stumped.

Curiously looking for any thoughts.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:31 AM
  #8  
mikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,102
Likes: 0
From: Reading, PA
Default

Well guys, it's fixed. Wound up being a defective cam position sensor. Brand new one too. Go figure.

Mikey
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:32 AM
  #9  
mikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,102
Likes: 0
From: Reading, PA
Default

Originally Posted by ozws6
I'm also experiencing a weird problem with my new LS2 setup. Sometimes between 5000-6000 rpm the motor will misfire/bog for a short period of time. It is a random issue. My 1st outing at the track a few week back it occured everytime in 2nd & 3rd gears (3 passes). On the drive home, I couldn't repeat it. My setup is a low comp (8.4:1) LS2 that I plan to install a turbo on later this year.

My AFR is rock steady at 12.8:1 (WB in the car). I'm running 42 lb/hr injectors, 255 lph pump, and the duty cycle is 65-67%. I'm confident I'm not having a fuel issue. I've changed plug wires and plugs (twice: TR5 @ 0.040" & 0.035"). No change. No PCM codes (thought it might be a crank or cam position sensor). I've check everything I can think of twice (the above, grounds, other sensors, etc...). When this occurs there is nothing out of the ordinary I can pull out of my HP Tuners logs. This one has got me stumped.

Curiously looking for any thoughts.

Try both cam and crank sensors. I did not see anything out of the ordinary in my logs either.

Mike
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:10 AM
  #10  
DrkPhx's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,519
Likes: 0
From: St. Michael, MN.
Default

Originally Posted by mikey
Well guys, it's fixed. Wound up being a defective cam position sensor. Brand new one too. Go figure.

Mikey
Did you replace the entire front cover assembly or just the connectors?
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:33 PM
  #11  
mikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,102
Likes: 0
From: Reading, PA
Default

Originally Posted by DrkPhx
Did you replace the entire front cover assembly or just the connectors?
Just replaced the sensor.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2006 | 05:18 PM
  #12  
ozws6's Avatar
9 Second Club
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
From: Missouri
Default

Mikey, Thanks for the help! I changed my cam and crank position sensors today and my stumble problem is gone!
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:24 AM
  #13  
mikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,102
Likes: 0
From: Reading, PA
Default

Originally Posted by ozws6
Mikey, Thanks for the help! I changed my cam and crank position sensors today and my stumble problem is gone!
Good deal brother. Your welcome.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:39 AM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE