Predator version 2.1.3
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Launching!
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From: Almonte, Ont. Canada
Predator version 2.1.3 Diablos website shows that for the latest version of the Predator you can tune all of the following:
U7198 Specific Features:
Timing Table 1000-1800rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Idle (+ 500rpm / -300rpm)
Speed Limiters (Trucks Only)
Rev Limiters
RPM Shift Points
MPH Up and Downshifts
Shift Timing
Shift Pressure
Cooling Fan ON and OFF temperatures
Re-Calibrate Speedometer for Gear and Tire Size Changes
Torque Management abuse mode time limit ON/OFF
% torque reduction vs. RPM ON/OFF
Upshift torque reduction (all gears) ON/OFF
Adjust for different injector size
Adjust for long term fuel trims
Disable P0430 and P0430 codes
Adjust COT enable temperature
Misfire Low rev
Misfire Low cyl
Misfire idle cyl
Enable/disable MPH, set high to disable
Disable P-codes: 0400,0401,0402, 0405, 1404 and 1409
Disable P-codes: 0410, 0412 and 0418
Disable P-codes: 0137, 0138, 0140, 0141, 0157, 0158, 0160 and 0161
All standard DiabloSport Predator features
Does anyone have this version of the programmer and can verify all of this functionality is available in the handheld?
U7198 Specific Features:
Timing Table 1000-1800rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Idle (+ 500rpm / -300rpm)
Speed Limiters (Trucks Only)
Rev Limiters
RPM Shift Points
MPH Up and Downshifts
Shift Timing
Shift Pressure
Cooling Fan ON and OFF temperatures
Re-Calibrate Speedometer for Gear and Tire Size Changes
Torque Management abuse mode time limit ON/OFF
% torque reduction vs. RPM ON/OFF
Upshift torque reduction (all gears) ON/OFF
Adjust for different injector size
Adjust for long term fuel trims
Disable P0430 and P0430 codes
Adjust COT enable temperature
Misfire Low rev
Misfire Low cyl
Misfire idle cyl
Enable/disable MPH, set high to disable
Disable P-codes: 0400,0401,0402, 0405, 1404 and 1409
Disable P-codes: 0410, 0412 and 0418
Disable P-codes: 0137, 0138, 0140, 0141, 0157, 0158, 0160 and 0161
All standard DiabloSport Predator features
Does anyone have this version of the programmer and can verify all of this functionality is available in the handheld?
Why would you want those features? They are way too generic if you ask me. A lot of different things can be happening between 4,000 and 7,000 rpms (ie peak torque vs. peak hp). And with the way pricing has been heading these days, handhelds are within $100~$200 the cost of an all-out, ***-kicking piece of tuning software like EFI Live (cough shameless plug cough). Yes there are others too (like HPTuners and LS1 Edit), but it's up to you to decide which is best for you when it comes time to drop the coin. But, I can guaruntee the software route is going to be a much wiser choice over the handhelds in the search for tuning devices.
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Launching!
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The main reason I ask is that I have an older version of the Predator which they will upgrade for free with proof of purchase.
I'm just trying to determine if all of this functionality is truely brought out at the user interface or if this is "custom tune" capability.
Harry
I'm just trying to determine if all of this functionality is truely brought out at the user interface or if this is "custom tune" capability.
Harry
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From: sofla
Originally Posted by beaSSt
Diablos website shows that for the latest version of the Predator you can tune all of the following:
U7198 Specific Features:
Timing Table 1000-1800rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Idle (+ 500rpm / -300rpm)
Speed Limiters (Trucks Only)
Rev Limiters
RPM Shift Points
MPH Up and Downshifts
Shift Timing
Shift Pressure
Cooling Fan ON and OFF temperatures
Re-Calibrate Speedometer for Gear and Tire Size Changes
Torque Management abuse mode time limit ON/OFF
% torque reduction vs. RPM ON/OFF
Upshift torque reduction (all gears) ON/OFF
Adjust for different injector size
Adjust for long term fuel trims
Disable P0430 and P0430 codes
Adjust COT enable temperature
Misfire Low rev
Misfire Low cyl
Misfire idle cyl
Enable/disable MPH, set high to disable
Disable P-codes: 0400,0401,0402, 0405, 1404 and 1409
Disable P-codes: 0410, 0412 and 0418
Disable P-codes: 0137, 0138, 0140, 0141, 0157, 0158, 0160 and 0161
All standard DiabloSport Predator features
Does anyone have this version of the programmer and can verify all of this functionality is available in the handheld?
U7198 Specific Features:
Timing Table 1000-1800rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Timing Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 2000-4000rpm (+/- 20%)
Fuel Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
Idle (+ 500rpm / -300rpm)
Speed Limiters (Trucks Only)
Rev Limiters
RPM Shift Points
MPH Up and Downshifts
Shift Timing
Shift Pressure
Cooling Fan ON and OFF temperatures
Re-Calibrate Speedometer for Gear and Tire Size Changes
Torque Management abuse mode time limit ON/OFF
% torque reduction vs. RPM ON/OFF
Upshift torque reduction (all gears) ON/OFF
Adjust for different injector size
Adjust for long term fuel trims
Disable P0430 and P0430 codes
Adjust COT enable temperature
Misfire Low rev
Misfire Low cyl
Misfire idle cyl
Enable/disable MPH, set high to disable
Disable P-codes: 0400,0401,0402, 0405, 1404 and 1409
Disable P-codes: 0410, 0412 and 0418
Disable P-codes: 0137, 0138, 0140, 0141, 0157, 0158, 0160 and 0161
All standard DiabloSport Predator features
Does anyone have this version of the programmer and can verify all of this functionality is available in the handheld?
Yes. Mine is currently on 2.10, and has all those features. In addition, these units now automatically unlock themselves when you restore your stock tune.
Now its no longer useless if you get rid of your car or truck.
On the subject of generic tunes, these params. can only be adjusted so far, so as to keep the end users out of trouble. If you need more than the pred. can support, there are lots of shops that have Diablos CMR software and can build you a custom tune no prob. If your tuning needs are more in-depth, and you know what your doing, than the various Tuning Software available is great.
Upgrade that predator and enjoy!
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Launching!
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From: Almonte, Ont. Canada
All you have to do to get upgraded is call them and they will issue an RMA.
If you have original proof of purchase the upgrade is free. If you don't have proof of purchase the upgrade is $99.
You have to return your car to stock tune before sending back the unit or you will lose your original tune info. Along with the software upgrade they also apply a hardware upgrade.
The guy at Diablo (Mike) was great to work with on this return by the way.
Being able to turn off the codes for !EGR and !AIR without having to pay a shop to do it is motivation alone for this upgrade!
If you have original proof of purchase the upgrade is free. If you don't have proof of purchase the upgrade is $99.
You have to return your car to stock tune before sending back the unit or you will lose your original tune info. Along with the software upgrade they also apply a hardware upgrade.
The guy at Diablo (Mike) was great to work with on this return by the way.
Being able to turn off the codes for !EGR and !AIR without having to pay a shop to do it is motivation alone for this upgrade!
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I need to get mine updated too, V1.03, one of the first units and have a RWTD custom tune. Been putting it off cause I don't want to run around on the stock tune for too long - any info on how long it takes? Phone #?
On The Tree
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From: Cooper City, FL
Originally Posted by 2001NBMZ28
I need to get mine updated too, V1.03, one of the first units and have a RWTD custom tune. Been putting it off cause I don't want to run around on the stock tune for too long - any info on how long it takes? Phone #?
Diablosport tech-561 908 0040 9-5 est. M-F
On The Tree
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From: Cooper City, FL
Originally Posted by 2001NBMZ28
Got another question. Idle (+500RPM/-300RPM) is the "in gear" idle, not park/neutral correct?
So you actually get 4 idle parameters:
A/C off neutral
A/C on neutral
A/C off drive
A/C on drive
Like I said, its an awesome FREE software upgrade.
dialbo new undate
Originally Posted by sprayjunkie
Hey beaSSt, glad you had a good experience with Diablosport. Sounds like that Mike is a great guy, probably real good looking too. Did you call me today, I dont remember doing an RMA for any of my Canadian friends today? Either way, you'll love it when you get it back.
Thanks,
Mike
Thanks,
Mike
Well, one thing to consider (which is almost always ignored in this debate) is that used handhelds sell rather often at less than half of new price.
No doubt tuning software is far better but the cost isn't always just a 100-200 different.
No doubt tuning software is far better but the cost isn't always just a 100-200 different.
Originally Posted by SSpdDmon
Why would you want those features? They are way too generic if you ask me. A lot of different things can be happening between 4,000 and 7,000 rpms (ie peak torque vs. peak hp). And with the way pricing has been heading these days, handhelds are within $100~$200 the cost of an all-out, ***-kicking piece of tuning software like EFI Live (cough shameless plug cough). Yes there are others too (like HPTuners and LS1 Edit), but it's up to you to decide which is best for you when it comes time to drop the coin. But, I can guaruntee the software route is going to be a much wiser choice over the handhelds in the search for tuning devices.
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From: sofla
Originally Posted by ls1birdman
Hi mike I wanted to know how can I get the upgrade for my predator cause I have the old version
Teching In
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Sprayjunkie
I have the old bios version GM04 1.11 and now LTFT's are postive +2.33 (put on a CAI with cone filter) from -1.5 to 0 that they were prior to the cone.
O2's have kicked down also to 870-880 range @ WOT from 900-915
There is a RWTD tune in there now for the pre-CAI setup.
Will the upgrade allow me enough to change the existing RWTD tune to take care of this (with in reason of course) (as long as it is uploaded in the predator) or do the changes input just affect the stock Diablo performance tune?
Thanks
Steve
Forgot to put in (before someone yells at me) - we had the car dynoed before the cone and we were at 12.9 - 13 A/F across the board. So I do have at least a decent baseline.
I have the old bios version GM04 1.11 and now LTFT's are postive +2.33 (put on a CAI with cone filter) from -1.5 to 0 that they were prior to the cone.
O2's have kicked down also to 870-880 range @ WOT from 900-915
There is a RWTD tune in there now for the pre-CAI setup.
Will the upgrade allow me enough to change the existing RWTD tune to take care of this (with in reason of course) (as long as it is uploaded in the predator) or do the changes input just affect the stock Diablo performance tune?
Thanks
Steve
Forgot to put in (before someone yells at me) - we had the car dynoed before the cone and we were at 12.9 - 13 A/F across the board. So I do have at least a decent baseline.
Last edited by rushhour; Oct 4, 2006 at 01:59 PM.
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From: Cooper City, FL
Originally Posted by rushhour
Sprayjunkie
I have the old bios version GM04 1.11 and now LTFT's are postive +2.33 (put on a CAI with cone filter) from -1.5 to 0 that they were prior to the cone.
O2's have kicked down also to 870-880 range @ WOT from 900-915
There is a RWTD tune in there now for the pre-CAI setup.
Will the upgrade allow me enough to change the existing RWTD tune to take care of this (with in reason of course) (as long as it is uploaded in the predator) or do the changes input just affect the stock Diablo performance tune?
Thanks
Steve
Forgot to put in (before someone yells at me) - we had the car dynoed before the cone and we were at 12.9 - 13 A/F across the board. So I do have at least a decent baseline.
I have the old bios version GM04 1.11 and now LTFT's are postive +2.33 (put on a CAI with cone filter) from -1.5 to 0 that they were prior to the cone.
O2's have kicked down also to 870-880 range @ WOT from 900-915
There is a RWTD tune in there now for the pre-CAI setup.
Will the upgrade allow me enough to change the existing RWTD tune to take care of this (with in reason of course) (as long as it is uploaded in the predator) or do the changes input just affect the stock Diablo performance tune?
Thanks
Steve
Forgot to put in (before someone yells at me) - we had the car dynoed before the cone and we were at 12.9 - 13 A/F across the board. So I do have at least a decent baseline.
Yours is actually a different model than we've been discussing here, a U7193 as oppored to our U7198's. The latest revision on that tool is 2.04.
To answer your question, yes. You can add fuel to adjust your LTFT's. Take it easy on that Goat while the stock tune is in it.
Give us a call, 561-908-0040, ask for Mike.