Problem with Predator
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Problem with Predator I bought a used Diablosports Predator from someone off this board and when I tried using it on my C5 it read "Tune is locked to a different vehicle".
Will I have to return the Predator back to the guy I bought it from to unlock it or can I contact Diablosports and have them do it?
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Will I have to return the Predator back to the guy I bought it from to unlock it or can I contact Diablosports and have them do it?
Thanks!
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From: CT
return it to the guy and have him restore his original backup so it unlocks the Predator. If he is unwilling to do it (cuz he wants his car to still be tuned), then you'll have to ship it to Diablosport and pay them $100 to do it.
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From: CT
nope... once you restore the original backup to your vehicle, the Predator becomes "unlocked" and can then be used on another vehicle, provided of course that it's supported by that model Predator.
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06MonteSS / DiabLew Tune
2014 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3, 6-speed manual, short-throw performance shifter, NPP dual-mode performance exhaust, 1LE front splitter, ZL1 rockers, Z28 Rear Spoiler, all paint-matched Red Rock Metallic, BMR strut tower brace, Cold Air Inductions cold air intake, Apex Motorsports, Inc. catch-can, Custom DiabLew Tune
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http://www.diablosport.com/downloads...7195_U7198.pdf
Check the 3rd page...
It needs to be disassembled and critical parts need to be replaced to unlock it. That's why they charge $100.
Check the 3rd page...
It needs to be disassembled and critical parts need to be replaced to unlock it. That's why they charge $100.
Last edited by SSpdDmon; May 30, 2007 at 08:34 AM.
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right... but you're reading it wrong... "upon upload of the factory tune" -- which is to the predator - meaning the backup of the original tune that gets uploaded to the predator - which happens when you install a diablo tune to your car -- it backs up the original stock tune to the Predator - at that point, the Predator is locked to your car.
HOWEVER, when you restore the original backup to your car (which removes the Diablo tune from the car) the Predator is now unlocked and no longer "married" to that vehicle, and as I said above - it can then be used on another vehicle, provided of course that it's supported by that model Predator.
that's why that return policy on page 3 of that manual states that you MUST restore the original backup to your car before sending back the Predator... so that it is unlocked.
HOWEVER, when you restore the original backup to your car (which removes the Diablo tune from the car) the Predator is now unlocked and no longer "married" to that vehicle, and as I said above - it can then be used on another vehicle, provided of course that it's supported by that model Predator.
that's why that return policy on page 3 of that manual states that you MUST restore the original backup to your car before sending back the Predator... so that it is unlocked.
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2014 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3, 6-speed manual, short-throw performance shifter, NPP dual-mode performance exhaust, 1LE front splitter, ZL1 rockers, Z28 Rear Spoiler, all paint-matched Red Rock Metallic, BMR strut tower brace, Cold Air Inductions cold air intake, Apex Motorsports, Inc. catch-can, Custom DiabLew Tune
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I hate to argue symantics here....but....
That to me says once it's married to the car, it's for life (or until disassembled by DiabloSport).
Originally Posted by DiabloSport, LLC.
The Predator will marry to the vehicle upon upload of the factory tune and cannot be re-flashed, for any reason, back to a blank tool.
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nope... you're missing the part about when the factory tune is uploaded to the predator... the original stock backup... once the backup is done and a tune is installed in your car, yes the Predator is locked/married to your car. and then if you give it to someone else to use, it is still locked, and right, it can't be re-flashed back to a blank tool, but if/when you send it to Diablo because it's locked from someone else's car, they replace the critical parts necessary to unlock it, and hence the $100 charge.
However, again... if you restore the original stock backup tune to your car first, the predator is then unlocked/unmarried from your car and can be used on another car. It is only locked/married once you install a tune to your car and it creates the backup, that's it. if the backup is restored to the car, the predator is then unlocked and is back to the same condition as if you just bought it.
...I contacted Mike at Diablosport (sprayjunkie), he'll be chiming in shortly...maybe he can explain it clearer than I am...
However, again... if you restore the original stock backup tune to your car first, the predator is then unlocked/unmarried from your car and can be used on another car. It is only locked/married once you install a tune to your car and it creates the backup, that's it. if the backup is restored to the car, the predator is then unlocked and is back to the same condition as if you just bought it.
...I contacted Mike at Diablosport (sprayjunkie), he'll be chiming in shortly...maybe he can explain it clearer than I am...
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2014 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3, 6-speed manual, short-throw performance shifter, NPP dual-mode performance exhaust, 1LE front splitter, ZL1 rockers, Z28 Rear Spoiler, all paint-matched Red Rock Metallic, BMR strut tower brace, Cold Air Inductions cold air intake, Apex Motorsports, Inc. catch-can, Custom DiabLew Tune
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Last edited by 06MonteSS; May 30, 2007 at 09:42 AM.
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Ohtay boys, here is the deal.
There is an older revision on the U7198 (1.03) that even upon restoring the backup to the vehicle it is married to will not allow the tool to be unlocked.
ANY revision newer than 2.00 will allow the tool to be unlocked once the original backup has been restored. At that point the tool may be used on any other supported application.
If the tool in question has the 1.03 rev, it may well have been restored, but it is still married.
IF it was restored, it can be unlocked for $99 plus shipping.
IF it was not restored, there is nothing that can be done with it.
IF the tool has a newer revision, and is still locked, then the backup was not restored, and the tool cannot be unlocked.
To the OP: please call us at 561-908-0040x1 with the tool powered up, so we can figure this out.
Thanks
Mike
There is an older revision on the U7198 (1.03) that even upon restoring the backup to the vehicle it is married to will not allow the tool to be unlocked.
ANY revision newer than 2.00 will allow the tool to be unlocked once the original backup has been restored. At that point the tool may be used on any other supported application.
If the tool in question has the 1.03 rev, it may well have been restored, but it is still married.
IF it was restored, it can be unlocked for $99 plus shipping.
IF it was not restored, there is nothing that can be done with it.
IF the tool has a newer revision, and is still locked, then the backup was not restored, and the tool cannot be unlocked.
To the OP: please call us at 561-908-0040x1 with the tool powered up, so we can figure this out.
Thanks
Mike
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a-HA! ok, so we're both right, depending on the revision of the tool....
Thanks Mike!
Thanks Mike!
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2014 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3, 6-speed manual, short-throw performance shifter, NPP dual-mode performance exhaust, 1LE front splitter, ZL1 rockers, Z28 Rear Spoiler, all paint-matched Red Rock Metallic, BMR strut tower brace, Cold Air Inductions cold air intake, Apex Motorsports, Inc. catch-can, Custom DiabLew Tune
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2014 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3, 6-speed manual, short-throw performance shifter, NPP dual-mode performance exhaust, 1LE front splitter, ZL1 rockers, Z28 Rear Spoiler, all paint-matched Red Rock Metallic, BMR strut tower brace, Cold Air Inductions cold air intake, Apex Motorsports, Inc. catch-can, Custom DiabLew Tune
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I think Monte's correct.
That's actually how the Predator software upgrade process seems to work.
When I had mine upgraded I had to return my car program to stock (remove the Predator tune) and then returned the unit to Diablo to reflash the upgrade software. If I had not done that I would have lost my factory tune as they essentially create a new blank tool when upgrading the handheld software.
That's actually how the Predator software upgrade process seems to work.
When I had mine upgraded I had to return my car program to stock (remove the Predator tune) and then returned the unit to Diablo to reflash the upgrade software. If I had not done that I would have lost my factory tune as they essentially create a new blank tool when upgrading the handheld software.
