anyone ever taken the EFI 101 class?
Originally Posted by 900hpSS
i was reading that EFI live offers a training coarse on tuning called EFI 101. Has anyone ever taken this class or know if it is a good class?
In addition to the EFI-101 course, there is also an advanced course, a 4 day accelerated certification program and a few different manufacturer specific courses (including one on EFILive).
I would say that it definitely is worthwhile, but I am a bit biased. I'm presently the instructor for the EFILive course, so my relationship with EFI University is a bit loaded.
Everybody that I've recommended the 101 course to that have taken it have taken quite a bit away from it, even those that have a considerable amount of experience.
Everybody that I've recommended the 101 course to that have taken it have taken quite a bit away from it, even those that have a considerable amount of experience.
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Staging Lane
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dc justin
what does the class teach you about using EFI live if anything? i know there is a class for that but i figured if they show you how to do a real tune then they have to somewhat show you how to use the computer program? what do you think?
what does the class teach you about using EFI live if anything? i know there is a class for that but i figured if they show you how to do a real tune then they have to somewhat show you how to use the computer program? what do you think?
Originally Posted by dc_justin
I would like to, really, but I don't foresee it happening anytime soon. There is a shortage of good shops to hold the class at in this area...
Originally Posted by 900hpSS
dc justin
what does the class teach you about using EFI live if anything? i know there is a class for that but i figured if they show you how to do a real tune then they have to somewhat show you how to use the computer program? what do you think?
what does the class teach you about using EFI live if anything? i know there is a class for that but i figured if they show you how to do a real tune then they have to somewhat show you how to use the computer program? what do you think?
The EFILive specific course is all about the software, rather than in-depth into the tuning aspect.
Originally Posted by Xtnct00WS6
I know that ALL too well! All we'd need is a dyno though right?
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Staging Lane
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so which class would you take first the class that teaches how to tune or the class that teaches how to use the computer?
Oh and i'm a bit confused. is EFI Live a computer program or just a hand held tuner? Or do you get both?
Oh and i'm a bit confused. is EFI Live a computer program or just a hand held tuner? Or do you get both?
I have taken the EFILive 101 class. I am pretty well versed on the software. What is great about the class is you will find small things that you had either forgot about or didn't know. In this business there is never a point where you know everything, if you think you do, its time to quit and start another hobby/business. I would recommend the EFILive 101 before the EFI 101 if you are inexperienced with the software and the tuning methods.
Staging Lane
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From: Lower Desert California
I attended the EFI 101 class this last weekend in Temecula Ca. It was very informative, I have performed some EFI tuning before so I was familiar with most of the material however I was uncertain on many aspects of EFI tuning. They give you everything you need for the 1 and a half day course. Text book, calculator and pen. The book is yours to keep and is recommend that you take notes in the book for future use. Most of the class time is spent discussing the basics ofEFI tuning starting with the basics 4 cycles of an engine and going on to the beginning of actually tuning a car.
Since the EFI world is fairly diverse they really don't touch on any one type of system. All of the information taught is related in all EFI systems. There is alot of math involved. They show you formulas on how to figure BSFA, BSAC, injector size, engine volume, etc etc. They also show you how to apply it in the real world. They also illustrate how all the sensors work. The only thing that they did not touch on very much is MAF's. Most after market EFI systems are speed density, so there was not much mentioned about this sensitive area. That to me was kind of a bummer, but after class the instructor was happy to answer any additional questions.
The last day was half class time and half dyno demo. They showed basic fuel curve and timing tuning. All in all I would recommend it to anyone who is remotely thinking about getting in to tuning their own car or even has a good grasp on tuning. The class is great to get you feet wet yet the instructor was knowledgeable enough to answer and describe every question that was asked. Defiantly worth the money in my book!
Since the EFI world is fairly diverse they really don't touch on any one type of system. All of the information taught is related in all EFI systems. There is alot of math involved. They show you formulas on how to figure BSFA, BSAC, injector size, engine volume, etc etc. They also show you how to apply it in the real world. They also illustrate how all the sensors work. The only thing that they did not touch on very much is MAF's. Most after market EFI systems are speed density, so there was not much mentioned about this sensitive area. That to me was kind of a bummer, but after class the instructor was happy to answer any additional questions.
The last day was half class time and half dyno demo. They showed basic fuel curve and timing tuning. All in all I would recommend it to anyone who is remotely thinking about getting in to tuning their own car or even has a good grasp on tuning. The class is great to get you feet wet yet the instructor was knowledgeable enough to answer and describe every question that was asked. Defiantly worth the money in my book!
Originally Posted by eLTwerker
how much did it cost?
Originally Posted by jmalibuss
I attended the EFI 101 class this last weekend in Temecula Ca. It was very informative, I have performed some EFI tuning before so I was familiar with most of the material however I was uncertain on many aspects of EFI tuning. They give you everything you need for the 1 and a half day course. Text book, calculator and pen. The book is yours to keep and is recommend that you take notes in the book for future use...