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Old 10-04-2007 | 07:57 PM
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I guess I am not sure what is going on. When I first started doing the autove everything matched, commanded vs. actual. So, next step was to put in closed loop speed density without maf. So I went WOT to start doing my timing and the commanded vs. actual did not match anymore. I expected a little variation, but actual would not move from 14's per LM-1. Now, after that run last night the cars idle is erratic, even if I put the care in open loop.
So at this point I am lost and frustrated. As far as the wideband, I am not sure what you guys are talking about. It has always fluctuated.
Old 10-04-2007 | 08:48 PM
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I guess I am not sure what is going on. When I first started doing the autove everything matched, commanded vs. actual. So, next step was to put in closed loop speed density without maf. So I went WOT to start doing my timing and the commanded vs. actual did not match anymore. I expected a little variation, but actual would not move from 14's per LM-1. Now, after that run last night the cars idle is erratic, even if I put the care in open loop.
So at this point I am lost and frustrated. As far as the wideband, I am not sure what you guys are talking about. It has always fluctuated.
Your WB looks like it configured wrong. Top line when you click your 'data' button. Looks like 2.5v=25:1. 1.5v=15:1 etc. Need to configure it so 2.5v=14.7
Click on the data tab, and then hit play. You'll see what I mean.
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When I look at the log it shows 2.5v=15
Old 10-04-2007 | 09:57 PM
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When you right click,more info on the pid CALC.AFR_LM11 what equation does it have? The standard equation for an LM-1 is {EXT.AD1}*10. This equation is what is giving us the different readings to you.
Old 10-04-2007 | 10:28 PM
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Mine is different. I found a custom pid on the efi forum to account for error when programming lm-1 and for better resolution. Should I change it back?
({EXT.AD1}*1.9936)+10.022
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Mine is different. I found a custom pid on the efi forum to account for error when programming lm-1 and for better resolution. Should I change it back?
({EXT.AD1}*1.9936)+10.022
Not if you have changed the output from the LM-1 to suit your pid. It just explains why no one else can get an accurate reading of whats going on.
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Using your pid your VE table needs a lot of work at WOT. You are commanding richer in these areas just not describing the airmass properly.
Old 10-05-2007 | 06:24 AM
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Well I am spraying a mixture of water and denatured alcohol for detonation purposes. I think that may be skewing the results, but I can't run without it. I tried autove a couple of times and what you see is what I kept getting. I suppose I can start over again, but first have to figure out what happened after my run the other night. The car acts like it is searching for idle all of a sudden. It revs up, comes down, revs up, come down, continously. Would bad o2's cause this? I did not record it,but looking at the scan tool, it appeared my trims went +21 ltft, the wideband showed way lean (19:1). I flashed an open loop tune and it did the same thing. I am about to give up on this blower crap and go back to motor and nitrous, less of a tuning headache. It seems one thing after another pops up. I appreciate all the help from you guys.

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Old 10-05-2007 | 06:09 PM
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Seeing how lean it has been running under boost I would not be surprised if you have some major issues. I hope you dont.
Old 10-05-2007 | 09:40 PM
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I have only blipped WOT a few times and not for long. This is first time it started doing this, that is why I was thinking it was staying in closed loop at WOT. I have checked plugs, wires, and opened up valve covers so far. The plugs look fine, I think those would of gone first if I was running it lean for to long. I have not checked intake and headers for leaks yet. I also need to check for burnt wires or bad o2's. Would I have to turn off ltft and stft to eliminate the o2's?



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