What happened to the beta tuning book?
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I'm very interested in getting this book but concerned about it being so new. It sounds as though it's not quite finished and is still being changed? Once it's purchased and a new better version comes out, do we have to pay full price again to get the new version or is this the final finished version?
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I'm very interested in getting this book but concerned about it being so new. It sounds as though it's not quite finished and is still being changed? Once it's purchased and a new better version comes out, do we have to pay full price again to get the new version or is this the final finished version?
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lol...this is true. But I can get another paperback dictionary for a lot less than $70, no big loss. I'm just hearing things like some of the text refers to certain colors on a graph and this is a b&w book. And I'm sure he plans to add more features to it eventually. Just wondering how future releases will be handled. Maybe one day he can get it setup online and we can pay a fee to access it and print what we want.
So is the dictionary, does Barnes and Nobles give you a discount on the newest one, when it comes out? All kidding aside, the his web site, that's included should supply, any more need info, like new case studies. You can alway sell your old copy on Ebay and buy a new one
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I have it and I think you'll learn enough from it not to worry about the little mis-referances in the book. Other then the graphs not being in color, so the cells are shaded instead of colored, I don't see any issues. Every book has corrections on each new printing. You can buy it now and start using it right away, or wait until you retire to buy it and use it to tune your classic car.
By the way a hard cover unabridged dictionary runs about the same price as this book and the library version is about 3 times that, of course it has a few more pages
By the way a hard cover unabridged dictionary runs about the same price as this book and the library version is about 3 times that, of course it has a few more pages
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I had a beta book, just got the final edition- if you are trying to learn tuning- its a great book. Quality the whole way around is great-
Colors being in text and not image are not a problem ( as I always had HP infront of me as I read ) so I could just look on screen and see a color image - for the money, its a great buy- if u need advanced info it is probably to basic 4 u.
Colors being in text and not image are not a problem ( as I always had HP infront of me as I read ) so I could just look on screen and see a color image - for the money, its a great buy- if u need advanced info it is probably to basic 4 u.
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I'm bringing this one back from the dead. I bought this fairly expensive book, and was promised a website with exclusive access only for book purchasers with more update, more case study's with more FI, Diesel, EFILive stuff, and to my knowledge, NONE of this has happened unless I missed something. So is it going to ever happen or what??? It's a very good book, but didn't get what was promised to go with it.
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I'm bringing this one back from the dead. I bought this fairly expensive book, and was promised a website with exclusive access only for book purchasers with more update, more case study's with more FI, Diesel, EFILive stuff, and to my knowledge, NON of this has happened unless I missed something. So is it going to ever happen or what??? It's a very good book, but didn't get what was promised to go with it.
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I'm bringing this one back from the dead. I bought this fairly expensive book, and was promised a website with exclusive access only for book purchasers with more update, more case study's with more FI, Diesel, EFILive stuff, and to my knowledge, NONE of this has happened unless I missed something. So is it going to ever happen or what??? It's a very good book, but didn't get what was promised to go with it.
You and 69Yenko both have emails, for everybody wondering, Dan is working on it, I think like the book, it will be more then worth then wait. I'd had ask him a short time ago about it, and got to see some previews and was impressed.
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I gave up on the website and other case studies long ago.
The book was decent but alot of info was missing. Cant remember exactly but a camaro was one of the case studies and it mentioned the car would need extensive ve and maf table tuning. Long story short it went through the maf table curve and didnt even mention that the ve table was touched at all. I asked about it and was told that the ve table was modified but I cant remember the asnwer I got as to why it was not covered.
The guy that wrote the book is probably the best tuner out there. He knows his stuff. The bad part about being that good is that no matter how hard you try to lay out all the details for the beginners, you will end up forgetting some stuff because you know it so well that you skim over it.
My honest opinion. For that price it should be like an owners manual. Yeah maybe everyone knows where to plug the cable in, but it really needs to be to that level. Step 1 - Step 2 - etc. Then in the back, a troubleshooting guide with references back to the book covering the possible causes. Thats alot of material but hell, its/was 75 bucks.
The book was decent but alot of info was missing. Cant remember exactly but a camaro was one of the case studies and it mentioned the car would need extensive ve and maf table tuning. Long story short it went through the maf table curve and didnt even mention that the ve table was touched at all. I asked about it and was told that the ve table was modified but I cant remember the asnwer I got as to why it was not covered.
The guy that wrote the book is probably the best tuner out there. He knows his stuff. The bad part about being that good is that no matter how hard you try to lay out all the details for the beginners, you will end up forgetting some stuff because you know it so well that you skim over it.
My honest opinion. For that price it should be like an owners manual. Yeah maybe everyone knows where to plug the cable in, but it really needs to be to that level. Step 1 - Step 2 - etc. Then in the back, a troubleshooting guide with references back to the book covering the possible causes. Thats alot of material but hell, its/was 75 bucks.
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Totally agree. I really feel the book was not as good as advertised and all the information found in it can be found for free on this site and other links if you look hard enough. Not worth $75 IMO. If anyone is interested in my copy, PM me for a good price.
I gave up on the website and other case studies long ago.
The book was decent but alot of info was missing. Cant remember exactly but a camaro was one of the case studies and it mentioned the car would need extensive ve and maf table tuning. Long story short it went through the maf table curve and didnt even mention that the ve table was touched at all. I asked about it and was told that the ve table was modified but I cant remember the asnwer I got as to why it was not covered.
The guy that wrote the book is probably the best tuner out there. He knows his stuff. The bad part about being that good is that no matter how hard you try to lay out all the details for the beginners, you will end up forgetting some stuff because you know it so well that you skim over it.
My honest opinion. For that price it should be like an owners manual. Yeah maybe everyone knows where to plug the cable in, but it really needs to be to that level. Step 1 - Step 2 - etc. Then in the back, a troubleshooting guide with references back to the book covering the possible causes. Thats alot of material but hell, its/was 75 bucks.
The book was decent but alot of info was missing. Cant remember exactly but a camaro was one of the case studies and it mentioned the car would need extensive ve and maf table tuning. Long story short it went through the maf table curve and didnt even mention that the ve table was touched at all. I asked about it and was told that the ve table was modified but I cant remember the asnwer I got as to why it was not covered.
The guy that wrote the book is probably the best tuner out there. He knows his stuff. The bad part about being that good is that no matter how hard you try to lay out all the details for the beginners, you will end up forgetting some stuff because you know it so well that you skim over it.
My honest opinion. For that price it should be like an owners manual. Yeah maybe everyone knows where to plug the cable in, but it really needs to be to that level. Step 1 - Step 2 - etc. Then in the back, a troubleshooting guide with references back to the book covering the possible causes. Thats alot of material but hell, its/was 75 bucks.
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