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Old Sep 13, 2025 | 08:04 AM
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Default Taking drives in our Trans Am never gets old

Soon will be a quarter century old, yet we still love our T/A even after all these years. We have never said that about any other car. Yesterday my wife needed to get some items at a store about 20 miles away here in rural western NC. She said, "let's put the top down on the T/A' and go. Of course I said yes and off we went on a sunny 75 degree day. Starts right up, drives perfectly and rarely any issues. We now have over 87,000 miles on it. To think Pontiac is gone is very sad to us and why we hang on to this car.

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Old Sep 13, 2025 | 04:25 PM
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It’s good that you’re taking the t/a out and enjoying it. The weather looks great and the road are clear.
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Old Sep 13, 2025 | 07:35 PM
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Not in a TA vert but in our 20 Mustang GT vert a cruise this afternoon. Maybe 30-40 miles. Weather was in the mid 70's.
Tomorrow a cruise to a local lunch eat place about 25 miles south of our house. It's right on the lake with out side seating. Temps in the low 80's tomorrow.
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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 07:49 AM
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Not in a TA vert but in our 20 Mustang GT vert a cruise this afternoon. Maybe 30-40 miles. Weather was in the mid 70's.
Tomorrow a cruise to a local lunch eat place about 25 miles south of our house. It's right on the lake with out side seating. Temps in the low 80's tomorrow.
Nothing wrong with that either. It was a 'toss up' for us too but the T/A won out over our "14 GT. The T/A seats are much more comfortable. I don't know about your 2020 but our '14 seats are like sitting on a brick wall in comparison.

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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 11:07 AM
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I bet driving the TA makes you feel 20 years younger. I know I do.
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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 03:54 PM
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We had a 14 Mustang GT 5.0 vert with the 6 speed manual. Base model GT. Seats were OK. After I replaced the stock shifter with a Barton the 6 speed shifter was sweet.
Two years ago we traded it for a 20 GT with the 5.0/10 speed combo. Got tired of shifting. LOL.
It's a premium GT so heated and cooled seats. Today it was 82 with really bright sun so the cooled seats felt really good on our lunch cruise.
Big brake package. The 10 speed is great. You can play with the shift points.
Seating wise this may sound a bit goofy but I always put my wallet in my front pocket instead of my back pocket. Much more comfortable.
The down side of the Mustang is my latest LS3/4L60E swap. It's a 1980 Camaro. It's was sitting in the shop pouting all day long.



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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nathan C
I bet driving the TA makes you feel 20 years younger. I know I do.
It always brings a smile to my face when I turn the key. You are right, it takes you back in time.
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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1 TJ
The down side of the Mustang is my latest LS3/4L60E swap. It's a 1980 Camaro. It's was sitting in the shop pouting all day long.
@LS1 TJ Do you have a build thread for this? Would love to see more.
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The build thread is in "Conversions".
"1980 Camaro RS L92 swap".
Hard to believe it been 4 years.
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The F Bodies in the 90's were everywhere

Now when I go on either a 12 hour drive or just go to the store the number of people pointing or staring is hard not to notice.

They aren't the best constructed cars with sub-frames and a weak 10 bolt but they are unique in appearance, have no drivers aids and you sit inside it perfectly.
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Originally Posted by 70T/A400
The F Bodies in the 90's were everywhere

Now when I go on either a 12 hour drive or just go to the store the number of people pointing or staring is hard not to notice.

They aren't the best constructed cars with sub-frames and a weak 10 bolt but they are unique in appearance, have no drivers aids and you sit inside it perfectly.
So true. "Fits like a glove" is the best way to describe it for me. I have never owned a car so perfect for my 160 - 170 lb 5'9" body. .Even the passenger side with it's floor hump works out OK for my wife at 4'11".
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Originally Posted by 70T/A400
The F Bodies in the 90's were everywhere

Now when I go on either a 12 hour drive or just go to the store the number of people pointing or staring is hard not to notice.

They aren't the best constructed cars with sub-frames and a weak 10 bolt but they are unique in appearance, have no drivers aids and you sit inside it perfectly.
The more straight forward approach is the enduring virtue of older cars. Modern approaches feel like a vehicles wrapped around technology, intentionally insulating the operator from the driving. The manufacturers, insurance companies, and the consumers are all too happy with that arrangement. Frankly a lot of things are that way. If you actually want to feel connected to the experience that can leave you numb.
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Originally Posted by lees02WS6
The more straight forward approach is the enduring virtue of older cars. Modern approaches feel like a vehicles wrapped around technology, intentionally insulating the operator from the driving. The manufacturers, insurance companies, and the consumers are all too happy with that arrangement. Frankly a lot of things are that way. If you actually want to feel connected to the experience that can leave you numb.
This is a very true observation. The first vehicle in which I experienced significant "driver isolation" effect was my 2010 Malibu (that generation was released for the 2008 model year); that's the oldest car where I ever remember feeling any measure of true detachment from the driving experience. It's gotten worse since that generation of vehicle but, to me, that's the era when it really began. Interestingly, that was also the first vehicle I ever owned with drive-by-wire throttle and electric power steering; the former playing a huge role in that "detached" feeling.
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