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Old 03-15-2006 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mellowyellow
CETA will be worth more in the long run. And mine always stands out aginst my buds LS1's..
I second that.
Old 03-16-2006 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BanditTA
I second that.
Again... how do you figure it'll be worth MORE?
Old 03-16-2006 | 08:31 AM
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CETA!!!

Course I'm a bit biased....
Old 03-16-2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
Again... how do you figure it'll be worth MORE?
I want to know too because it begs to be debated.

The CETA was a one year car in which 2500 some odd cars were produced (someone can correct that number). The Hawks were cars that were produced each year (except 98 of course) but averaged under 1000 units a year sans 2002 which produced 1500 (approx) cars. In 2000 my car is one of 741.

My choice of course would be the Hawk
Old 03-16-2006 | 12:46 PM
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another for the hawk!!!
Old 03-16-2006 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Kadonny
I want to know too because it begs to be debated.

The CETA was a one year car in which 2500 some odd cars were produced (someone can correct that number).

Only 2000 were brought into the country. Total number was 2390.

My car number is 2312.
Old 03-16-2006 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Weezzer
Only 2000 were brought into the country. Total number was 2390.

My car number is 2312.
So what?
2300+ cars in 2002
1501 Firehawks in 2002

Last year.(2002) Just because it(CETA) has a big bird costume doesn't mean it's going to be worth MORE to a collector of restored or orginal cars 30 years from now.

I personally wouldn't buy a Collectors. I'd sure as hell pay a premium in the future for a Firehawk.
Old 03-16-2006 | 03:04 PM
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ok guys, Thanks to your posts, I bought the Hawk

It has the Bilstein and the chrome and the spoiler. I just hope to God I made the right decision. The car will arrive next week and I even got a big red bow for an extra touch to the suprise.

This was really hard for a girl to do not knowing anything about sports cars, but I do have another question if you guys dont mind.

What is the breakdown of the best, rarest and most demanding Trans Am for 2002 starting with the best and going down? I am curious how far down the list this car is and I cant find any info listing this question.

You guys are awesome and I am so thankfull for all your input.

Please let me know about that list so hopefully other woman wanting to suprise you guys may have something to reference in order to buy you guys the best
Old 03-16-2006 | 03:58 PM
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izmini- He has a VERY special lady on his side. You made a sweet choice. Not everyone likes yellow paint, or black wheels, or the WS6 hood.

God my fiance' is very giving towards me, but she hasn't bought an entire car though.

He's a lucky mutt and soon to be a proud Firehawk owner.

Most wanted Trans-Ams for 2002
1)Blackbirds - ultra rare very expensive 30-50k
2)Firehawk- 1501 made in 2002 depending on options (Bilstein,Auburn,spoiler,chrome,mats,portfolio,b ceritficate)
3)Collector's Edition- 2300+ made and sought after
4) WS6- base Trans-Am with different hood, wheels, supspension bits, exhaust
5)NHRA- Looks like a base T/A with badges and other nice add-ons.
6) Base Trans-Am

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If i had the choice it'd be a CE
Old 03-16-2006 | 04:18 PM
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Perfect. The list means I got him the 2nd best... plus this car has everything you listed for options.

I will post the link with pics, as soon as it arrives.. Keeping this a secret is soo hard.
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
So what?
2300+ cars in 2002
1501 Firehawks in 2002

Last year.(2002) Just because it(CETA) has a big bird costume doesn't mean it's going to be worth MORE to a collector of restored or orginal cars 30 years from now.

I personally wouldn't buy a Collectors. I'd sure as hell pay a premium in the future for a Firehawk.

Hey, thats ok, if that is your opinion thats fine.

No need to bitch at me, I was just clarifying what was asked to be defined in this post.

I wasn't making any judgement calls, just trying to help the gal out... after all, she did ask for everyones opinion.
Old 03-16-2006 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
So what?
2300+ cars in 2002
1501 Firehawks in 2002

Last year.(2002) Just because it(CETA) has a big bird costume doesn't mean it's going to be worth MORE to a collector of restored or orginal cars 30 years from now.

I personally wouldn't buy a Collectors. I'd sure as hell pay a premium in the future for a Firehawk.
Only time will tell how much the CETA's will be worth. But, I don't really think that you can only group 2002 Firehawks in that, you should be grouping 99-02 Firehawks into it. 2390 to about 4500 Firehawks (not sure on the hawk number). I love firehawks, and I love CETA's. I would have probably got the CETA b/c it really gets noticed and firehawks, while very nicely styled, only are noticed by know that there is a difference. Both cars are very nice, I would gladly take either one over my formula
Old 03-17-2006 | 07:49 AM
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If history is any indicator, cars don't become collector's items because of paint schemes, decals, wheels, etc. It's always been body styles and mechanical features that define what models collectors are interested in. For example, although the yellow is a sought-after color for old 'Cudas it's the 426 Hemi convertibles in any color that fetch the most money. Rarity isn't always a good indicator either (that's especially true if the differences are purely cosmetic). One of the rarest classic Mustangs made was the 71 Boss 351 and yet they aren't worth nearly as much as the more common 69 and 70 Boss 302s.

So, using history as a guide, the Firehawk is more likely than the CETA to become a collectors item years from now.
Old 03-17-2006 | 10:56 AM
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Its funny you guys are debating this.I had sort of a similar debate with myself.(and my dad) Its personal choice.For now.I know personally I was set on buying a 02 Collectors Edition T/A at my local dealership in 03.I went there with my dad (so i could drive my car home) in his 99 Firehawk.When we got there I backed out.With his red Firehawk next to the CE T/A all of a sudden I didnt want the CE anymore.I respectfully declined buying it and decided to wait for a Hawk.2 months later same sales guy called me they took a low mileage Pewter Hawk in a dealer trade cause he knew I wanted one and the rest is history.So it really depends on your taste.Thats what makes the world go around.Every one is different.
Old 03-17-2006 | 11:03 AM
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i would have preferred the hawk. not a fan of the yellow/black paint scheme.
Old 03-17-2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
If history is any indicator, cars don't become collector's items because of paint schemes, decals, wheels, etc. It's always been body styles and mechanical features that define what models collectors are interested in. For example, although the yellow is a sought-after color for old 'Cudas it's the 426 Hemi convertibles in any color that fetch the most money. Rarity isn't always a good indicator either (that's especially true if the differences are purely cosmetic). One of the rarest classic Mustangs made was the 71 Boss 351 and yet they aren't worth nearly as much as the more common 69 and 70 Boss 302s.

So, using history as a guide, the Firehawk is more likely than the CETA to become a collectors item years from now.
Paint schemes do factor in to collectability when they are original.. I still think that the CETA will be sought after more in later years due to Firehawks being made 4yrs to 1.. So what that there were 1500+ made in 2002 they were still made from 99-01. CETA's 1yr run. And it is a love/hate thing with the yellow paint but I don't like black,red or pewter on any Firebird so it's all in one's choice... Good luck with you're choice I would rather have a Hawk than an regular Bird..
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Originally Posted by mellowyellow
Paint schemes do factor in to collectability when they are original...
Yes, but that is usually just the fact that it's still original paint (regardless of color) rather than a particular color scheme. There are a few exceptions but they are pretty rare (one would be the "Mako Shark" Corvette). The reason is probably that it's pretty easy to repaint a car to have whatever classic look you want.
Old 03-17-2006 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
Yes, but that is usually just the fact that it's still original paint (regardless of color) rather than a particular color scheme. There are a few exceptions but they are pretty rare (one would be the "Mako Shark" Corvette). The reason is probably that it's pretty easy to repaint a car to have whatever classic look you want.
Which is what I meant "Original"..
Old 03-17-2006 | 01:53 PM
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either way im sure he'll love it...i had to sell my hawk a few months ago and im tryin to figure a way to get another one..haha i had a 02 with every option including 1le..and 20k is pretty good..i bought mine for 24k but it was about a year ago


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