Drop an ls6 into a ws6?
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Drop an ls6 into a ws6?
I have been geting alot of mixed messages on puting an ls6 engine into an ws6
i know the ls1 can be moded for less to be faster than a stock ls6. but i am looking into the long run. i know puting an ls6 into a ws6 will cost a good chunk of change. but a moded ls6 will be faster than a moded ls1. i mean full cams/heads/bolt ons... all of it.
will it be worth it in the LONGRUN, like speed wise.
ls1=320hp ls6=405hp
to me thats enough?
Please i need input! i need info on gains vs loses and if its smart.. ex....
i know the ls1 can be moded for less to be faster than a stock ls6. but i am looking into the long run. i know puting an ls6 into a ws6 will cost a good chunk of change. but a moded ls6 will be faster than a moded ls1. i mean full cams/heads/bolt ons... all of it.
will it be worth it in the LONGRUN, like speed wise.
ls1=320hp ls6=405hp
to me thats enough?
Please i need input! i need info on gains vs loses and if its smart.. ex....
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I mean yes it could be seen as that... but an ls6 with cams/head/bolt ons would be much faster than an ls1 with the same mods.. you know what im trying to say
i just need to know if its worth it...
i just need to know if its worth it...
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It all depends if your WS6 needs a motor and if you are plan to keep it mostly bolt ons. You could get a forged block with a better flowing heads for about the same price, so it all depends on what you want the car to do. The only reason i would get an LS6 would be to keep it stock and not mess with the engine, if I already had ls1.
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dude i know what your saying. i think it would be sick to have an ls6 in my W. its just a matter of funds. do i want to spend that much, or do i spend less and mod the ls1 to go faster. if I were you and I had the means to do it, I would. that would be sick. do it
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depends what year WS6 you have too...if its an 01 or 02, you may have the LS6 block already anyway. Most likely you don't, but its not that big of a deal (from what i understand the oiling system is just slightly better in the LS6 block) and if thats the case, get a LS6 cam, LS6 valvesprings, and 243 casting heads and bam...youll have an LS6, for fairly cheap depending on how you get the work done. I thought about doing this actually since i have a daily driver, and still want excellent reliability but i think i may go with a mild 224 cam and 243 heads with longtube headers and have a little more power than the LS6 with the same reliability and very similar torque curve...good luck!
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I'm with ls1aggie. unless everything I've heard, the ls6 is the same identical block as the ls1 with some slightly better components, which in turn means that you can get the same power our of each
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Originally Posted by TransDreamer
I have been geting alot of mixed messages on puting an ls6 engine into an ws6
i know the ls1 can be moded for less to be faster than a stock ls6. but i am looking into the long run. i know puting an ls6 into a ws6 will cost a good chunk of change. but a moded ls6 will be faster than a moded ls1. i mean full cams/heads/bolt ons... all of it.
will it be worth it in the LONGRUN, like speed wise.
ls1=320hp ls6=405hp
to me thats enough?
Please i need input! i need info on gains vs loses and if its smart.. ex....
i know the ls1 can be moded for less to be faster than a stock ls6. but i am looking into the long run. i know puting an ls6 into a ws6 will cost a good chunk of change. but a moded ls6 will be faster than a moded ls1. i mean full cams/heads/bolt ons... all of it.
will it be worth it in the LONGRUN, like speed wise.
ls1=320hp ls6=405hp
to me thats enough?
Please i need input! i need info on gains vs loses and if its smart.. ex....
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Well, if your just going to swap out the parts that make an LS6 an LS6 than what is the point? An ls6 with aftermarket heads/cam and bolt ons is gonna make the same power as a an ls1 with the same heads/cam and bolt ons assuming it is a newer ls1 with the ls6 intake. Like a couple others said...if your going to leave it stock than an LS6 would be cool, but if your going to mod it.....than there is no point to getting an LS6 other than throwing money away. Now if you want something with more modding potential...there is always the ls2 or ls7 because those have more displacement than the ls1/ls6
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Originally Posted by So-GT0071
Well, if your just going to swap out the parts that make an LS6 an LS6 than what is the point? An ls6 with aftermarket heads/cam and bolt ons is gonna make the same power as a an ls1 with the same heads/cam and bolt ons assuming it is a newer ls1 with the ls6 intake . Like a couple others said...if your going to leave it stock than an LS6 would be cool, but if your going to mod it.....than there is no point to getting an LS6 other than throwing money away. Now if you want something with more modding potential...there is always the ls2 or ls7 because those have more displacement than the ls1/ls6
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Originally Posted by TransDreamer
..... i mean full cams/heads/bolt ons... all of it.
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Originally Posted by TransDreamer
I mean yes it could be seen as that... but an ls6 with cams/head/bolt ons would be much faster than an ls1 with the same mods.. you know what im trying to say
i just need to know if its worth it...
i just need to know if its worth it...
Second, If your looking for the long haul and are going to spend the money or do the work to pull a motor, then you would be wise to throw in a 408, or forged internals motor to handle later mods.
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Ok, if you pull the heads and cam out of both and put identical head and cam, identical conditions, etc. they will dyno the EXACT SAME. The LS6 is only as good as its H/C, they are the only reason it makes more power, change those and its a free game. (in regards to power, the LS6 does have a little better oiling gallies). To answer your question if you max them both out the will perform the same.
Ditto!
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i love how people who own the car don't even know it's underrated
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an ls1 with full bolt ons will dyno near a stock ls6. its not worth the price of the swap if you ask me. if your going to swap motors, put in a forged ls1 and swap over everything. that way down the road you are ready for spray, FI, whatever. if you want more power N/A then get a H/C package and forget it. it would be more power and half the money of the motor and swap.
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Make the LS4 from a GXP fit in there No not FWD... wait... hmm Toronado WS6 anyone? LOL
Anyways, I think taking the internals (cam, others you want), heads, and intake from a LS6 would be the way to go. You can call it a LS6 and only those who really want to question it and check your block will know.
Anyways, I think taking the internals (cam, others you want), heads, and intake from a LS6 would be the way to go. You can call it a LS6 and only those who really want to question it and check your block will know.