PontiacFan

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I've got one for sale.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lsx-parts-sale/839177-1998-2002-ws6-lower-airbox.html

ghardester

That's right. 2002 WS6 fat spoke wheels have black center caps, says Pontiac around the edge and had the red arrowhead in the center. No reference to WS6 on them.

wssix99

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So, Firechicken - what are you going to do about your problem? You have a link to a GM parts catalog and several salvage operations linked earlier in the thread. Cleveland Pick-A-Part (and I assume other F-body salvage specialists) have airboxes, airlids, etc. in stock from every model of Firebird and Camaro.

We can debate about who's "aribox" is bigger for days - but the guys at the salvage yards and dealers have the stuff in front of them, can give you the most accurate information, and can even give you what you need! (If you want to get new parts, you can talk to Jarret at Lake Chevrolet, above. He does their online operation and would be happy to get you any info you need from the GM catalog, part numbers, etc.)

FireChickenws6

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Cool. Just making sure.

y2k_ta

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There is no debate. Several folks, including myself, have provided the correct information. The only car you can get the correct lower air box for a ram air car from is another ram air car.

wssix99

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True - on every WS6 up until 1998. You can check the GM parts catalog for confirmation. If you have pictures of the different boxes, part numbers, etc. regarding different airboxes on post '97 WS6's and SS's, I'd love to see them. I wouldn't want to get the wrong part if I ever had to change mine out.

JohnnyBs98WS6Rag

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Dude, you are still confused. Get your nose out of that worthless online catalog you linked (which doesn't have the part he's looking for) and look up some real pics of a 98+ WS6 lower airbox / upper radiator support and compare it to a non-WS6 car. They are DIFFERENT. Nobody is going to waste their time schooling someone too lazy to look up and confirm for themselves well known FACTS that have been discussed for 10 years now.

y2k_ta

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Get a tape measure? Get your eyes checked. You don't need a tape measure to see the difference. We're not talking about ANY ram air car that was built before 1998. The original poster doesn't have an LT1 car.

I'm not going to repeat my information. Read my previous posts for the CORRECT information!

wssix99

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Please enlighten me.

When I took possession of my car from the dealer, I didn't see any difference between the two. The ASC promotional materials in 1999 specifically said that they only changed hoods. The GM dealers' parts catalog only shows one set of parts for the 5.7L. Surely, you must have some evidence or pictures to support you assertion that would show the GM catalog to be incomplete or incorrect. Or must we trust your deep background and wisdom of the subject?

PontiacFan

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Dude, lighten up.
Many people are trying to tell you there are two designs.


There are two different lower airboxes used for the 1998-2002 Formula/Trans Am cars.
The standard 'non-WS6' design has a shorter opening.
The 'WS6' design has a taller opening.

(First photo, 'non-WS6', second photo 'WS6'. See the difference in the height of the opening?!?)

PontiacFan

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Std unit 25170361
WS6 unit 12455209

Item #6, Page 4-G11 in the parts manual, Intake System

wssix99

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Thanks!!! This is very helpful.

y2k_ta

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The evidence that I have are my two eyes. I have a base-model Trans Am, and have seen hundreds of WS6 'birds. I know there is a difference. Why I feel so compelled to set you straight is beyond me.

GM Part Numbers...
Formula/Trans Am Airbox: 25170361
WS6 Ram Air Raised Airbox: 12455209

I do have a "deep background and wisdom on the subject". That is why I'm the moderator of this forum.

Please stop sharing your incorrect information. Not only have you done it in this thread, but I know of at least one other thread in this forum that you've given out incorrect information in.

wssix99

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A thousand apologies!!! Not only was I incorrect, I am guilty as charged. I did spread my incorrect understanding of WS6 airbox details across another post. I have gone back and edited my reply for that instance.

Previous to signing up for this site, I have been working off of information from another, incomplete site. Both that other site and my WS6 purchase pre-date the existence of LS1tech.com and I am now working to have that elder site updated, as well.

I am not alone - with regard to the WS6 air induction system; there are lot of other uninformed people posting on this site and others. Its very difficult to get definitive information on this one topic, in particular. Relating to that issue, I've created a new thread where you all might help me get straightened out a bit more: https://ls1tech.com/forums/pontiac-firebird-1967-2002/841929-98-02-ws6-package-parts-list.html#post8447133

ghardester

wssix99: I recommend arguing once, then checking to be REALLY sure you know what you are talking about before continuing. Particularly with the moderators, they almost always know what they are talking about, not always. The air box is such a basic thing that you should be listening instead of talking. Just my .02c.

The similarities in our avatar pictures leave me hoping for a sunny day soon, so I can take a new picture and change mine. I don't want to be confused with you.