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2005 GTO
Pacesetter LT
Catless Mids
Resonator delete
3200 Stall
Stage 3 Hot Cam
LC1 Wideband
1 Piece Drive Shaft
150 WET PLATE KIT
Lingenfelter 325 FP
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Was considering going E85....What will be the gains on an 150 shot? Wasting my time?
Stock 33LB injectors arent enough? If not what should I got with?
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Are you wanting to know the gains on the 150 shot on E85 only?
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Basically yes...and is it worth it? How large of injectors are needed. Am I wasting time with in ported 243s? Etc...
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E85 will only be worth it if it allows you to run more timing, thus making more power. I'd also do at least 60lb injectors if you went that route. Depends on how well those hand ported 243's are done...it could hurt or help
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Non boosted applications are a waste of E85 really, unless you are running a very high compression motor. E85 requires almost twice the fuel to make the same power, its gains are made because it is way more stable and allows you to run more timing before detonation occurs. You will also need a better flowing fuel pump with the larger injectors with fuel rails and fuel lines. As always it will need re-tuned if any fuel system changes are made.
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^^^^ what he said
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^^^^ what he said
Hey Tom!!
Long time no see, hadn't seen you post in a while. How is the mini Holden farm up there?
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Hey Tom!!
Long time no see, hadn't seen you post in a while. How is the mini Holden farm up there?
Hey Buzz..... life is good. This farm is..... well, expanding soon!
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Another Holden?
I'm waiting for the new ZL1 with the 10 speed auto so I can compare it to the new GS or Z06. My COSMOS Purple GTO will go into hibernation once I pick which new car I'm getting.
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I sold the CTSV and have toyed with a new one or maybe the new Z06. I really don't know what's next........ yet
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The new CTS-V's are too rich for my poor married ***. $80ish K is my cap. I really like the Z06 and can get a "Base" one for $82 K out the door... I was so tempted to get one a few months back then Chevy announced the ZL1 and then the Grand Sport (Black Rose of course), now I have to wait a bit longer.
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Originally Posted by Buzzmanb12
Non boosted applications are a waste of E85 really, unless you are running a very high compression motor. E85 requires almost twice the fuel to make the same power, its gains are made because it is way more stable and allows you to run more timing before detonation occurs. You will also need a better flowing fuel pump with the larger injectors with fuel rails and fuel lines. As always it will need re-tuned if any fuel system changes are made.
Remember that ethanol carries oxygen that gasoline doesn't. You can make more power with it simply because of this. The higher octane rating is really just a bonus for high compression or FI combos. The downside is the drastically higher required fuel flow rates and the expensive pricing.
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Originally Posted by gametech
Remember that ethanol carries oxygen that gasoline doesn't. You can make more power with it simply because of this. The higher octane rating is really just a bonus for high compression or FI combos. The downside is the drastically higher required fuel flow rates and the expensive pricing.
Thanx, I hadn't heard or read that. And to add to that...nothing more, lol.



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