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Old 10-07-2005, 03:11 PM
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Still new to the LS1 scene. I keep hearing complaints about the GTO's terrible timing and torque management. Can someone explain to me what the torque management is (I assume something that regulates torque, and perhaps limits it?). I would like to know what exactly it is, and how to get rid of it if it's taking power from me! lol
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Originally Posted by obselite
Still new to the LS1 scene. I keep hearing complaints about the GTO's terrible timing and torque management. Can someone explain to me what the torque management is (I assume something that regulates torque, and perhaps limits it?). I would like to know what exactly it is, and how to get rid of it if it's taking power from me! lol
TM is used to describe the way the cars electronics limit power based on several inputs to help extend the life of drivetrain components. Most tuning software can eliminate it or tone it down.
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its a double edged sword, its supposed to save your tranny and make it last longer but if you drive the car like its supposed to be driven it will kill your tranny faster cuz it causes the tranny to slip a little. never had it tuned on my truck and now im paying for it.
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would there be any noticeable power output by removing it? And why does GM set up a car with T/C and TM?

...just out of curiousity lol
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Torque managment was put on the GTO's and Vettes to limit power output in the midrange to prevent/reduce drivetrain stress which saves GM money in busted part warrentys.
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On the LS1 cars TM normally only shows it's face on the shifts. The computer reduces timing before and during the shift to help save some wear on the tranny. It's even worse and more invasive on the LS2's (the M6 car's even have TM.)

TM can be tuned out, but i wouldn't remove it totally, it does help to save the tranny over time. IT can be tuned out over x% throttle. I would leave it in under 40% or so.
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m6's have tm too. learn something new everyday
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mine went bye bye after my tune
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so how does this work on a manual transmission?

you can truley eliminate it with a tune?
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Originally Posted by mikespeed95
so how does this work on a manual transmission?

you can truley eliminate it with a tune?
When we had the LS6 tuned back in the spring of 03 Julio at Cartek removed it completely. He said that it pulls timing during shifts to save the clutch and trans. Since we had already upgraded both trans and clutch we felt it wasn't needed. After 24k miles all is fine.
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i dont really like TM on these cars
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Typical GM bullshit, drivetrain can't handle the LS1/2/6.
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The '05 M6 I drove last night was horrible... that must've been what I felt when powershifting gears... it seemed way down on power at the shifts... really sucked! I thought it was due to no throttle cable and using "fly-by-wire". We ended up getting a '05 A4... gotta get a tune!
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Eliminating or decreasing TM- does it effect the air/fuel ratios?



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