Stock 04 GTO Quarter mile and Dyno?
#4
Unless it's on the same dyno and the same track, on the same day, it's apples and oranges.
Just to compare, stock I was about 278hp / 306ftlb on a Dynojet with the old SAE rating system. With that I ran a best of 14.1 @ 101mph. The new rating system will reduce your numbers by about 10hp/ftlb on the 04 GTO.
FYI, here's some other cars with adjusted HP ratings under the new SAE system:
Horsepower ratings
Vehicle - 2005 - 2006
Acura MDX 265 253
Acura RL 300 290
Acura RSX 160 155
Chevrolet Corvette LS7 500 505
Cadillac XLR 440 469
Honda Civic 200 197
Lexus LS430 290 278
Pontiac G6 200 201
Toyota Corolla 130 126
Scion xB 108 103
Note that Ford hasn't adjusted their ratings yet.
Just to compare, stock I was about 278hp / 306ftlb on a Dynojet with the old SAE rating system. With that I ran a best of 14.1 @ 101mph. The new rating system will reduce your numbers by about 10hp/ftlb on the 04 GTO.
FYI, here's some other cars with adjusted HP ratings under the new SAE system:
Horsepower ratings
Vehicle - 2005 - 2006
Acura MDX 265 253
Acura RL 300 290
Acura RSX 160 155
Chevrolet Corvette LS7 500 505
Cadillac XLR 440 469
Honda Civic 200 197
Lexus LS430 290 278
Pontiac G6 200 201
Toyota Corolla 130 126
Scion xB 108 103
Note that Ford hasn't adjusted their ratings yet.
#5
Well since you said AVERAGE..
Id say the 04 a4 dynos 285 rwhp and runs 13.8 at 101 mph
And the 04 mn6 dynos 295 rwhp and runs 13.6 at 103 mph
There are people that have done a lot better and people that have done a lot worst...
But thats about the AVERAGE....
If your curious about the numbers for the 05 models on average just add 45 rwhp to the dyno nubers and 3 tenths and 3 mph to the 1/4 mile times and theres your average.
Id say the 04 a4 dynos 285 rwhp and runs 13.8 at 101 mph
And the 04 mn6 dynos 295 rwhp and runs 13.6 at 103 mph
There are people that have done a lot better and people that have done a lot worst...
But thats about the AVERAGE....
If your curious about the numbers for the 05 models on average just add 45 rwhp to the dyno nubers and 3 tenths and 3 mph to the 1/4 mile times and theres your average.
#6
oddly, there have been alot of gtos at MIR in maryland running low 15s, i really cant explain that, unless they were all sticks driven by grandmothers...i dont even know if they were 04s or 05+s, i would hope that for the sake of the ls2 that they were 04s even though i would be embarassed that an ls1 car could run so slow. of course these were probably the worst example of gtos.
#7
I go to MIR all the time I run and haven't seen any 15 second goats. Unless its a missed shift or totally blown launch. I got mine down to 13.25 when it was stock. Would have gotten down to a 13.1x if I didn't start modding
Of course you can find any car that runs slow. I've seen 15 second Cobra's and Vipers. When someone else jumps in the car, instant 3 seconds lopped off. So it does happen.
Of course you can find any car that runs slow. I've seen 15 second Cobra's and Vipers. When someone else jumps in the car, instant 3 seconds lopped off. So it does happen.
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#8
Originally Posted by 2.73 Vette
Well since you said AVERAGE..
Id say the 04 a4 dynos 285 rwhp and runs 13.8 at 101 mph
And the 04 mn6 dynos 295 rwhp and runs 13.6 at 103 mph
There are people that have done a lot better and people that have done a lot worst...
But thats about the AVERAGE....
If your curious about the numbers for the 05 models on average just add 45 rwhp to the dyno nubers and 3 tenths and 3 mph to the 1/4 mile times and theres your average.
Id say the 04 a4 dynos 285 rwhp and runs 13.8 at 101 mph
And the 04 mn6 dynos 295 rwhp and runs 13.6 at 103 mph
There are people that have done a lot better and people that have done a lot worst...
But thats about the AVERAGE....
If your curious about the numbers for the 05 models on average just add 45 rwhp to the dyno nubers and 3 tenths and 3 mph to the 1/4 mile times and theres your average.
Are we talking about the average GTO here or the average driver?
I disagree that the average 04 m6 gto is a 13.6 car, I'd say 13.2-13.3 max, maybe the average driver may only get it to run a 13.6 but that's not what the car can do.
#9
Originally Posted by spy2520
oddly, there have been alot of gtos at MIR in maryland running low 15s, i really cant explain that, unless they were all sticks driven by grandmothers...i dont even know if they were 04s or 05+s, i would hope that for the sake of the ls2 that they were 04s even though i would be embarassed that an ls1 car could run so slow. of course these were probably the worst example of gtos.
#10
Originally Posted by spy2520
oddly, there have been alot of gtos at MIR in maryland running low 15s, i really cant explain that, unless they were all sticks driven by grandmothers...
#11
As a point of refernce I went to two GTO gatherings at MIR this past summer and don't recall seeing any M6s that couldn't run a sub-14 and I don't think there was anyone outside of the 14s, regardless.
There weren't many NA Goats in the 12s at the time, and none in the 11s, altough there was one that should have been there based on trap speed.
I think most N/A Goats with decent tires are going to run low to high 12s and anyone running 11s in street trim would have to have forced induction or a stroked out motor.
There weren't many NA Goats in the 12s at the time, and none in the 11s, altough there was one that should have been there based on trap speed.
I think most N/A Goats with decent tires are going to run low to high 12s and anyone running 11s in street trim would have to have forced induction or a stroked out motor.
#12
Originally Posted by NVigR8
I ran a 15 sec pass there once - when I smoked my clutch
i swear i definitely saw one or two gtos consistently running low 15s, maybe they were running on 4 cylinders...i wasnt the only one who saw it.
#16
Originally Posted by spy2520
haha might have been you, is yours black??
i swear i definitely saw one or two gtos consistently running low 15s, maybe they were running on 4 cylinders...i wasnt the only one who saw it.
i swear i definitely saw one or two gtos consistently running low 15s, maybe they were running on 4 cylinders...i wasnt the only one who saw it.
#17
sorry but 04 mn6 goats dont run 13.2's..They run 13.6's with decent drivers on average.....Extremely FREAK 04 GTo's can run low 13's.. But not all of them..
So I stand by my 13.6 as a healthy average....in retrospect..C5 coupes and 05 GTO's are capable of 13.2's bone stock with decent drivers...But not 04 GTO's..
Im not saying that SOME GTO's dont hit low 13's. Cas it dose happen...But only as often as C5's and 05 GTO's running 12's bone stock...Wich is probay 1 out of every 30 people....1 out of every 30 running a high 12 in a 05 GTO/c5 coupe or 1 out of every 30 running a low 13 in a 04 GTO is by no means a good AVERAGE...
A good best to possibly expect..YEA...But no were near an average of what the car can do. If you got your bone stock GTO to run alow 13 bone stock....
YOU SHOULD PAT YOUR SELF ON THE BACK CAS YOU GOT A STRONG ONE
CAS 280-290 RWHP AND 3700 POUNDS TAKES A LOT OF LUCK TO RUN A 13.2
So I stand by my 13.6 as a healthy average....in retrospect..C5 coupes and 05 GTO's are capable of 13.2's bone stock with decent drivers...But not 04 GTO's..
Im not saying that SOME GTO's dont hit low 13's. Cas it dose happen...But only as often as C5's and 05 GTO's running 12's bone stock...Wich is probay 1 out of every 30 people....1 out of every 30 running a high 12 in a 05 GTO/c5 coupe or 1 out of every 30 running a low 13 in a 04 GTO is by no means a good AVERAGE...
A good best to possibly expect..YEA...But no were near an average of what the car can do. If you got your bone stock GTO to run alow 13 bone stock....
YOU SHOULD PAT YOUR SELF ON THE BACK CAS YOU GOT A STRONG ONE
CAS 280-290 RWHP AND 3700 POUNDS TAKES A LOT OF LUCK TO RUN A 13.2
#19
Originally Posted by Felix C
Amazing, a GTO question would should only be answered by actual 04 GTO owners being disputed by a vette owner.