Going from F-body to GTO?
02-13-2007, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSix
At least the rear isn't as weak as the 10 bolt...
The only thing wrong with the GTO is the weight. But it really isn't that heavy.
The only thing wrong with the GTO is the weight. But it really isn't that heavy.
I agree....it isn't THAT bad....
Mine is down to 3600 pounds even (w/o driver, was 3690 stock) with just minor weight reduction (lightweight skid plate, lighter wheels, pulled Y-brace and a few other things). It's still heavy, but it's not the 4000 pound curb weight all the haters make it out to be.
An f-body with a 12-bolt or 9" rear and a heavy driver wouldn't have much of a weight advantage at all....
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02-14-2007, 09:01 AM
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The only thing I miss about my Camaro is the lope of the cam. My GTO is better in every other respect. That's not to say it's faster. It isn't. But my Camaro had h/c, headers, and 4.10s. It just wasn't reliable or all-weather friendly.
Not to bash the people that say going to the GTO would be too much of a drop in power, but I have to point something out. You had, or have, made some pretty extensive mods to get to that point. Your '02 SS didn't come with 700 HP. Heads/cam combos are the same price for GTOs as they are for F-bods. Same with clutches. Plus we already have updated clutch hydraulics and the LS6 intake (for you pre-'01 guys).
It's just when you get into parts that are exclusive to the GTO that it gets more expensive. The GMM shifter looks the same as the Pro 5.0 but it has a different shaft. It's $120 higher. Gears, halfshafts, and axle stubs are high. Comparing Kooks headers with cats, the GTO version is actually cheaper.
I have no regrets trading the Camaro for the GTO. It's built much better, has a killer interior and handles a lot better around town and on the highway (even before I added the Pedders Track II package). Plus there are the creature comforts: in-dash CD changer, an available OEM Bluetooth kit, comfy seats...
Not to bash the people that say going to the GTO would be too much of a drop in power, but I have to point something out. You had, or have, made some pretty extensive mods to get to that point. Your '02 SS didn't come with 700 HP. Heads/cam combos are the same price for GTOs as they are for F-bods. Same with clutches. Plus we already have updated clutch hydraulics and the LS6 intake (for you pre-'01 guys).
It's just when you get into parts that are exclusive to the GTO that it gets more expensive. The GMM shifter looks the same as the Pro 5.0 but it has a different shaft. It's $120 higher. Gears, halfshafts, and axle stubs are high. Comparing Kooks headers with cats, the GTO version is actually cheaper.
I have no regrets trading the Camaro for the GTO. It's built much better, has a killer interior and handles a lot better around town and on the highway (even before I added the Pedders Track II package). Plus there are the creature comforts: in-dash CD changer, an available OEM Bluetooth kit, comfy seats...
02-14-2007, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake99SS
I have no regrets trading the Camaro for the GTO. It's built much better, has a killer interior and handles a lot better around town and on the highway (even before I added the Pedders Track II package). Plus there are the creature comforts: in-dash CD changer, an available OEM Bluetooth kit, comfy seats...
not to say that every F-bod is a rattle box but that window thing drives me crazy!
02-14-2007, 10:27 AM
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The window thing was the straw that broke the camel's back as far as my Camaro was concerned. After a summer of getting engine and wiring problems halfway sorted out, the driver's side window motor died. I got rid of the car within two weeks.
02-15-2007, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake99SS
The window thing was the straw that broke the camel's back as far as my Camaro was concerned. After a summer of getting engine and wiring problems halfway sorted out, the driver's side window motor died. I got rid of the car within two weeks.
tell me about it...between my two Z28s, i ordered 3 new window motors...
02-18-2007, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by damon_Z
Sure, they run quicker than the M6's in the quarter mile, but they're heavy as hell and are far from being the ideal drag car--not to mention that the LS2 GTO's have a heat soak issue.
