Teh Wicked

Well im set on a GTO as soon as i get home and strip my Mustang of every part possible. its going to be an M6 car and an LS2 model. Now after heavy research and lots of parts shoping I have made up my mind on the parts im going to buy with my cash left over fromt he deployment.

Pacesetter headers (cheapest ones) and then have them color match coated by a local guy int he Tampa area along with the valve covers.
Magnaflow catback
K&N FIPK
Cam
50-75 shot (Already got the kit)

anyways im trying to decide on a cam but these is quite a big selection to choose from. I love the Magic stick cams and I think im leaning towards the MGS3, But I keep hearing great feedback about the MGS4. only thing that worries me is the car is deffinatly going to be daily driven and rarely see the 1/4. lots of Traffic in my area too so it needs to have extreamly good street manners cause the Tampa summers get hot and hummid and I love A/C.

Now keep in mind im not set on a Magic Stick cam, I know there are Trex, Comp, Lunati, etc...

also what all will be needed to complete a cam swap on these cars? I know I need a cam, and 918 springs...

ExTurbo

if your gonna daily drive it i wouldnt go much bigger than a 228/232. the 364 should eat up that cam no problem...also try and think about maitinenece on the car...a cam like the MGS4 has a high lift which means your gonna be replacing springs every couple of years. you'll still make decent power with a smaller cam, i guess it just comes down to how much power your looking for out of your daily driver

Teh Wicked

So the Magic stick 3 would be a good choice then right? the lif tisnt as high so springs will not wear out as fast if ever and still make good power out of a DD.

im looking for 400rwhp without the juice...

also it must have a noticeable Idle, If im going to invest ina cam then I want my car to sound like its cammed. the power doesnt neccessarily have to be idle-7000 but something like 1500-6800 would be nice with a nasty sounding idle.

Teh Wicked

I just cant get my eyes off the Magic Stick 3, or possibly the Texas Speed 233/239 .595"/.603" which would prolly have like a smooth idle which im not looking for, I think im just going to opt for the MGS3.

Prolly going to go with the TSP PRC spring kit so im good for .660 lift and that should be plenty of spring for the MGS3 and not cause me any problems any years down the road. plus im going to get the idle im looking for but the rpm range is a little outta my liking.

sweetness

hpe c cam 232/234 112lsa with headers and that cam its very possible you could see 400rwhp+

98Z28MASS

iTrader: (6)

g5x3 112-114lsa + dual springs

wldesyWS6

iTrader: (2)

hey guys, he also asked what else he needed besides a cam and springs. Im not an LS2 guy, but i know you need springs, you will need double springs over or near 600 of lift, new hardened shorter pushrods, im not sure how the oil pump is on an LS2, but on an LS1 its a good idea to get a better high flowing one when doing a cam. Your timing chain should be good considering its an "LS2" chain obviously. There is other stuf too like gaskets, retainers and such, but what you need to upgrade all depends on how much power you plan to be putting down.

hopefully someone who knows their LS2 stuf a little better than i do can help you out....

DeepBlueZ

with full exhaust, a CAI and a tune, he should be well over 400 with that cam...

I'm over 400 rwhp with a little baby 224/224.

Teh Wicked

I was looking at those, but I dont like that fact they dont show the specs of the cam on there site. plus I think its going to be outta my preferred power range with a .600"/.610" lift on it. I think that puts it around 2300-6800...

Teh Wicked

where can you get those cams?

Teh Wicked

Might go with the Texas Speed 228R with a 112lsa to give me a noticeable idle and keep my street manners and well as not having to go big with the dual valve springs.

the Torquer V.2 is also looking good, keeps me below the .600 lift and should have a nice sounding idle with a 112lsa, both of which are healthy cams and should net me 40rwhp

LFSADRG

iTrader: (1)

Dont skimp on the headers. Driver side is a pain the *** to install and you dont want to be changing header gaskets due to inferior headers.

Catbacks are good for sound. For more power then go with a 3".

Consider the Ligenfelter intake deal. Uses the stock tube. Or even a K&N drop in filter.

Best advice for a cam is to contact a vendor to see which one will perform the best with your combination. MS3 is a cool cam but to get the most out of it I would consider adding ported heads.

I doubt 1 3/4" headers, 2.5" catback, an air filter at the end of a tube, and a MS3 cam will get 400rwhp with tuning. Maybe on a DynoJet

sweetness

horsepowerengineering.com they have a whole package for the gto it contains cam choice ( c cam 232/234 112lsa) or ( s cam 238/240 112lsa) with springs hardened rods and retainers. it also come with lpe coldair intake,arh headers with mids, wires tr55 plugs I believe and a underdrive pulley for like 2500$

sweetness

And the pacesetter headers aren't all that bad just get them coated I've been hearing alot of good reviews about them lately.

BlueSix

228/232 110 lsa on a comp xer lobe. I know it sounds small, but how high do you really want to rev to take advantage of your entire powerband?

You will want to get some advance ground in to help boost low end torque, i know with an LS1 and this cam you want +3 ground in. But with the LS2's higher compression you could probably get away with +1.

DeepBlueZ

whats wrong with dynojet #s??? inertia-type dynos are the most prevalent type....the original poster was probably thinking IN TERMS OF dynojet numbers when he posted anyway....

Even so, an MS3 is a decent sized stick....On a dynojet, i'd say an LS2 would be WELL over 400 to the wheels. On a mustang dyno, it might very well get there anyway.

98Z28MASS

iTrader: (6)

I forget the exact specs but its something like 234/242 or in that range I believe, so it is a big cam. I would suggest maybe looking at a torquer v2 or v3 as someone else said or the cam recommened by bluesix as it should be a stout street cam in an ls2 gto.

Teh Wicked

Think im gonna pick up the Tourquer V.2 from Texas speed with there cam package which comes with the cam, push rods and valve springs and that will keep me under the .600 lift as well. it should have a nice idle on a 112LSA...

im not intelligent on camshaft selection, im just going by what im reading on the desription of the cams mostly. the Tourqer V.2 seems to have a very nice power range and doesnt need to have the **** rev'd out of it to make power. figure a good idle with cam on these cars is right around 900-1000rpms and that particular cam kicks in near the 1600rpm range so that is a very short hop to get moving. and odds are if your already moving that cam is alrady going to be in the power before you even touch the loud pedal.

Teh Wicked

screw that, I can pick up alot of those parts for half price..I can get a brand new Maganflow cat-back for the car for under $400 shipped. can also pick up the cam kit I want from Texas Speed for well under $500, Headers I also can get a huge discout througha local guy and them have them coated by another guy who is local to my area and he will put a 2000degree coating and they will still be cheaper that about any other set of headers out there including the cost of the coating! im not bashing the sites, but why pay consumer price when you dont have too right?

Also you guys might be interested in the guys who do the coating on the headers and things. www.pm-fl.com they sponser my local website forums and they do immaculate work!