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Old 06-10-2008, 12:45 AM
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i cant talk too much about an ls1 gto which would get smoked by a SS because the have same power just less weight

but a ls2....

with drivers of equal experience would equate in the ls2 taking the ls1 SS
some gto drivers dont know how to drive and neither do some camaro drivers...


little secret - once gto drivers know how to preload the stock suspension just right, they become demons out the hole. camaro's solid axle are way easier to handle
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Originally Posted by gangbang malloy
i cant talk too much about an ls1 gto which would get smoked by a SS because the have same power just less weight

but a ls2....

with drivers of equal experience would equate in the ls2 taking the ls1 SS
some gto drivers dont know how to drive and neither do some camaro drivers...


little secret - once gto drivers know how to preload the stock suspension just right, they become demons out the hole. camaro's solid axle are way easier to handle

wheel hop is a pita
Old 06-10-2008, 08:06 AM
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I'am I the only one who loves these threads. Anyone else?

Please keep the opinions/experiences coming fella's.
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Meanwhile,

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Originally Posted by GMLIFER
Weird, when my 02 ss was bone stock I had no problem walking on stock GTO's. Mine was an m6 with 3.42's, lid and a catback.
musta not raced any LS2 GTO's then, remember they arent all the same.....
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**** first time i raced a 06 gto i lost with my 00 m6, lid exhaust, on the e way from like 40.mph second time from a dig, i had about a car on him, not much. now untuned we raced i have like two or three on him???? i think its all in the driver and the conditions...also he had intake-just a muffler. so its was pretty evin cars???
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ive had my fair share of win losses, havent lose to a ls1 goat though, got smoked by one goat by like 5 + cars, but he had h/c lol
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It was not stock but I raced a 2006 gto from a dig and pulled about three cars he said he had heads and cam making 486 to the wheels. My best dyno has been 437 hp with 447 tq and when I was at the light talking to him he couldn,t belive I pulled on him like that.
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yeah mine totally stock unless you count a drop k&n my buddy has a z-28 ls1 he's got headers flowmasters catless slp lid and slp maf and all the free mods....I pull a car ever time from a dig to 80....but of course I have learned the serect of preloading...my buddy was like man I don't know what it is but your car just squats and goes hehe
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Originally Posted by massillongoat
yeah mine totally stock unless you count a drop k&n my buddy has a z-28 ls1 he's got headers flowmasters catless slp lid and slp maf and all the free mods....I pull a car ever time from a dig to 80....but of course I have learned the serect of preloading...my buddy was like man I don't know what it is but your car just squats and goes hehe
Your have a 04/LS1 GTO, correct?
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Originally Posted by Subliminal Hit
01's & 02's are faster. LS6 intakes, some have LS6 heads.

What the hell is pipes?
I think you mean some had LS6 Blocks... which didn't make any more power than a regular LS1 block.
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Assuming all vehicles are stock.....

Ls1 GTO Vs. Ls1 Fbody..............Same Power, F-body 3-400lbs less, Fbody NO IRS = F-Body F T W

Ls2 GTO Vs Ls1 Fbody..............Ls2 Compensates for weight = Drivers Race
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yeah I have an 04 ls1 gto but you also gotta take in that my car is fresh some old had it I bought it with 14 grand on it in dec. its also and a4 sadly
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the LS2 in the goat makes 400/400
the LS1 in the goat makes 350/365

That's less than headers and a tune difference. Hell I'm already quite a bit faster than a LOT of the LS2's out there, and im still stock essentially.

I've also read that the LS1's in the gto's had a different cam than those in the F-bodies. How true that is I dont know....

Wheel hop IS a bitch particularly in the M6's, but the handling afforded by the IRS is great!


If you want to drag race the car only get an Fbody. If you want a nice cruiser that won't rattle like 2000 BB's in a paint can on a mixer, has great power, handles even better, get the GTO. Both are great cars, I just cant stand rattles.
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Would have to be due to really bad tune or really bad driver.
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04 a4 gtos are slow sorry but i had one for 4 months. Great car to cruise around in and loved the interior but it was slow. Traded it in on my 02 z28 m6 and there is no comparison. Now the ls2 goats are another story.
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no way will a ls1 gto walk an ls1 fbody... unless fbody owner does not know how to drive for ****...
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he can drive he just needs a tune really bad after that he'll kill me but you gotta remember I"m only walking on him cuz of gears...3.42s vs 2.73s big enough difference where I walk on him
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I've noticed that in almost every post that despite the person making the post having an F-body or a GTO, which ever they have, there car won.

I've only read I think 1 maybe 2 posts saying differently.
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