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Old 06-28-2010, 09:19 PM
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Default 427 LS2 M3 on track at NJMP

Sorry about the crappy camera sound quality. Turning down the treble helps filter it out.

I was losing oil pressure in sharp left hand turns so I delayed getting on the gas until the pressure climbed above 30 psi in a bunch of turns.


http://vimeo.com/12151729


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Old 06-28-2010, 09:29 PM
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Forgot to include a pic of the car:


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Nice, do you have the upgraded oil pan baffle? this helps some with the oil problem (all sustained high-g left handers), some tracks will still have problems though. Your other choice is a 3 stage dry sump :\ This is a common problem with LS2/3/7's
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Yes, the car has the Improve Performance baffled pan. I'm trying to avoid a dry sump setup. There has got to be a way to do this with a wet sump setup but thanks for the feedback. Keep it coming.
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that is awesome..
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im incredibly jealous. that's a badass car you have and the vid was great. your car pulls like a freight train down those straights.
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very cool car.
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what size classics are those?? 17's? looks great, love the car
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add+1 qt, would be help
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Great video and car.

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Accusump is the solution. Us RX7 guys have the same problem. BTW sick car!
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Well, unfortunately the LS2 and LS3 block are just prone to oiling issues on high G left hand corners; even more so on sustained left handers. In T-1, the LS2 and LS3 Corvettes would blow motors left and right until the SCCA approved of them running a 3 stage dry sump. The batwing pan helped the LS2's a little, but not the LS3's. GM engineers did not design the LS3 block for consistent and/or sustained 1.2+ G corners. I'm not sure what the excuse is for the LS2 block. You can believe me when I say the guys I race with tried the extra quart, tried the 3qt accusump, etc. All that's worked is a 3 stage dry sump unfortunately.

Hell, a local guy bought an LS3 vette to run with us that had a brand new crate LS3 in it with accusump, and on his 1st test day with the car (2nd session) the motor let go; and based on his times, he was barely running the car at 80%
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After this weekends event at VIR, I'm starting to warm up to a dry sump setup.. but not the potential price.

How hard is it to convert a wet sump setup to a dry sump? I presume the oil pump has to come out in addition on the pan... any tips?
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I honestly don't know everything it entails. I know it needs a whole new pan, oil holding tank, and lots of lines. I'm sure the current oil pump needs to come out, and something replaces it, I just don't know what

Here's a lot of info: http://www.drysump.com/Products.htm

What I do know about dry sumps, is they are not easy to plumb, and if done incorrectly, you'll be blowing oil out worse than if you put a hole in the block.

Let us know what you end up doing
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Love BMW's, Love LSX's...what more could you ask for...
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To configure a dry sump system, take a look at the Aviaid catalog since it contains schematics and some very nice explanations of systems, stages, etc.
http://www.aviaid.com/pdfs/cat05.pdf
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This thread gives you the idea for costs: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...es-or-not.html

wtknght1 is an east coast racer I compete with, he has an LS3
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Are you a CC member?
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Ah yup! Why?
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No reason, thought I saw the car photos over there.



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