Progress on my CMC car
Off to YouTube to see how to safely remove the old seals and not get into the housing. I bet a little pick would do it.
Time for the Stoptechs. I had to pull my pants down and unload over $1100 for these 2 piece rotors last year to play with the calipers I already had.
The rotors showed up the day I went to the track for practice (you know, the day I snapped an axle and watched my wheel pass me and launch itself into outer ****** space off the tire wall), the Friday leading into the race weekend. Ended up being a moot point as the caliper pistons were trashed.
The other 4 were worse. Maybe I would have been OK? But there's very little send left with my approach to setting up and equipping this car. Thanks to my friend who's been learning from a pro, there's nothing I can leave on the table. Here you can see the newer pistons are more thoughtfully designed. I'm genuinely curious as to what's up with the inner surface of the piston. The diameter being cast in is an excellent detail. An old piston is pictured in the bottom for clarification.
One or both of the calipers was leaking and I got them for basically free with new seal kits. I traded tires I won for them. The old seals didn't look hammered, but the dust boots were gone.
While they are radial mounted 4 pot calipers, they're not true racing calipers. I wonder if I should have left the boots off. I bet they're roached within a season.
Rebuilding was easy peasy though. My compressor died so I couldn't split the hubs from the adapters to relocate the spindle cooling duct shrouds. I'll swing by the hangar tomorrow and handle that to mock it all up and see what I'm missing. While this brake kit is a bolt on when you buy it from Stoptech, I've tried to piecemeal it together on the cheap with moderate success. I anticipate a couple issues I don't see just yet, but that's why I do this now and not the weekend before the first race.
Edited to fix pic links. The copy/paste job I attempted last night didn't fly.
Last edited by Supercharged111; Feb 16, 2021 at 09:56 PM.
The shroud is pretty flimsy and doesn't sit flat, but the cardboard template did. With a flat shroud the only trimming required would be for the brake pad to clear.
And this pic shows why there's interference at all.
The shroud is ever so slightly larger than the ID of the rotor, but the offset keeps the shield just off of the rotor face. I need to get some thicker shrouds cut for this and re-engineer the duct portion as well. Going to put some angle on it this time to keep the newish hoses happy.
I don't understand how I lathed that much iron off without a wheel coming loose, the car not wanting to move, etc. I had a similar issue when I cambered the diff last winter that mysteriously fixed itself and I noticed it immediately and began troubleshooting. This is a bit unnerving as it could have had catastrophic consequences. I'm not opposed to risk, but I prefer it be calculated. In this next pic you can see what got me off my *** to swap.
The car has always stunk like raw gas and I always attributed that to the vented tank with no charcoal canister, or because racecar. Last winter the stink got worse and I noticed the tank surface was moist, but never a drip. I wanted to change it out, but hadn't done my research and had bigger fish to fry. Well I'm done with the stink, I've done my research, and since the diff is out it's the perfect time to knock it out. Thinking I'll hit the pull and pay tomorrow to grab the gas gauge sending unit that'll play ball with my LT cluster seeing how the tank is LS. Another benefit of the tank is lighter weight, higher capacity, and the ability to run it lower without starvation which gives me more flexibility WRT weight distribution. And apparently the LT lines plug right in.
Can't really tell where the leak came from and I wasn't curious enough to find out so it's in the scrap metal bin now after I robbed the pump and chopped the harness. Next I unloaded my wounded axle and loaded the borrowed assembly. I then disassembled the wounded assembly. Looks like enough meat is still there to biff a seal back into.
Just need to straighten that up a bit. As for this POS?
I found a use for it.
Balancing the axle assembly to drain overnight. Plan is to shove a used axle in there, new seal, maybe a blob of silicone, and send it.
Here you can see an issue that developed, somehow, last time the car was out.
Somehow my rotors ended up lathing the caliper mounts to the point these hammered *** brake pads tried walking right out. I was tired of wrenching on the car Sunday of that race weekend so ran it metal on metal out back twice, including my only win that weekend. No matter as the rotors trashed the mounts anyway. This happened on the borrowed axle with my brakes. All set up on my axle now it all looks OK. Next up I had to redo my brake ducting, but the solution ended up much simpler than I had originally imagined. I figured I'd get fancy with a pie cut and angle these suckers forward. When I went to do just that, I came to realize that this perpendicular setup really is ideal. I thought they pushed the hose into the coilovers, but when I checked range of motion with the tie rods hooked up I was clear and full lock the other way was much happier, so I welded the first one back together, moved the rest mount, and was done. I also reduced the diameter of the shrouds to fit these schwanky new rotors.
This side I cut back a little too far, so welded the piece I cut off back on.
Come on don't leak and do fix my knock back issue!
Welcome to the smashed passenger quarter club. Someday I'll swap to a clean shell. But the money just keeps going to making the old turd faster.
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As for the quarter, I know a guy who does bodywork by day and actually did some quick PDR a couple years ago that made it look less bad. The car had a rumply quarter when I bought it, but I've certainly done plenty to it myself. If I could get that PDR guy in my garage for just a couple of hours he'd have it looking semi-presentable but as you can see, I chose to spend $2000 on brakes and Corvette hubs instead of making it pretty. Priorities.
I ended up running a space heater in the trailer overnight because the low was 26 and the car has no antifreeze in it.
The only way to open this door the next morning was with a propane torch. I got the ramp door with a prybar and the other side door from the inside with brute force. Had to use 4wd at the gas station because the truck was sliding downhill in park. Everything was a sheet of ice. It was so bad I couldn't position the trailer to fill the car so I filled a jug and hit the road. At the dyno, I ended up having to plate up from a 35mm to a 37mm to get my 260whp, I got 307wtq. Initial pulls on the 35 were 251/301. When I got home I roughed in the alignment at 1/8" toe out. I still need to make sure the rack is centered and get camber evened out on both sides. Leftist good at -3.0 but right side is at -2.7. It's probably close enough but I'll be running counter clockwise next weekend on a rival so the additional camber is welcome on the right side. Once I do that and finish my trap door cover for the fuel tank/pump I should be ready for tech which is scheduled for Tuesday.
Edit: I also went ahead and marked my bias valve.
I bought the car back in 2013 and took until last season to decide I wanted to **** with the valve, mainly because I'd walked the compound down to the point I could deviate from full minimum. We'll see if this does me any good. Seeing how I whooped *** with metal on metal rear brakes last year I have my doubts.
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Both lateral and radial are at or under 5 thou, so I believe my issue is the wheel(s?) itself. Gonna have the rim runout measured going forward with tire mountings. For now? Send it!
If I can get the laptop to play ball I'm in business. This thing should be a game changer. For that to happen I think I need to shoehorn a Windows 10 upgrade into my already tight schedule. Still need to pump a liter of brake fluid through the system along with some other piddly stuff. And do my j-o-b. We do this for fun, right?
The laptop issue boils down to me being able to replace a stupid .dll file that I don't presently have rights to even as an admin so I'll be borrowing someone else's for data analysis this weekend. **** Vista. Gotta get up bright and early tomorrow as the PM sessions were sold out but the all day wasn't. Lame. That tells me the morning session will be less slammed, plus we have a lot of parking spots to reserve, so it's for the best that I'm beating the gate down at 0730.
For the dll you can try changing the ownership, on the file or even go a folder up and propagate new ownership from there, then take permission of the file and see if it helps.
All patched up!
I got his front wheel here, it got in so far that it broke the power steering cooler. I didn't realize that until the weekend was over. You can see if leaking on my floor here.
This one's a little tougher to hide. But I managed this past weekend.
I really wasn't 100% sure what happened until I looked at the data, you can see it plain as day.
Don't mind me chopping the throttle there at the far right. That's the biggest hit I've ever been a part of, and we both finished the race! You can see how far everything got pushed in compared to the spare shell.
I got it pretty close, slapped another red fender on, and was done with the front. Didn't even check the alignment, the wheel never moved. When I did check it a month plus later, it was where I'd set it before the hit. The hit was big enough to knock my booster reinforcement out of whack though, so ideally a trip to the frame rack is in order.
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After the last minute PS cooler install, I remembered that the diff had puked out a bunch of oil at PPIR so I took another look. I realized that the vent no longer existed and was the likely cause seeing how the pinion seal was a year old and the diff cover had been buttoned up a month of so prior. So this bastard, along with 1/2 qt of gear oil, went in the car around 10 PM the night prior to practice. Fun.
Thankfully I had a spare on hand or else I would have just made a mess again at Pueblo.
This was also the weekend that my competition paid for a pro to come out and help anyone who raised their hand to go faster. My first session out on practice Friday was going to be a gentle pad bedding session seeing how I hadn't been to this track since 2019 and I'd slapped Stoptech pads on Raybestos bedded rotors. That plan fell to pieces about 4 seconds after I hit the racing surface as the pro, in another CMC car, blazed by me on the front straight. I entered chase mode as the pads came and went and did their thing. He slowly left me until he hit traffic, the pads came on, and I came on. Then it was lead/follow and a download after the fact. The next session out was much cleaner driving, lead follow again, and afterwards he told me that there was nothing he could have done to get around me. He drove my car about a half a second faster than I did, on pace for .7 faster until a corner worker ran after a cone when he was coming in. I've been faster than his time, but he's a pro and will find it as well so. . . at the end of the day to be less than a second a lap off of a pro is huge. Then you get to talking to them and find out all the weird stuff they do to go as fast as they do. This one had NEVER been to Pueblo and just picked it up on the spot. He'd picked out all the camber spots and non school lines almost instantly and just started laying it down. It was impressive to follow him and see how differently the car acted with him behind the wheel vs my usual nemesis. It was an experience to say the least. For Saturday though, the timing loop was being wonky so we did a qual race instead of qual session which meant we qualified based on finishing position and not fast lap times. Near the end, I got lucky. We'd been trapped behind the Spec Z guys for a few laps with them and their side by side through the dirt shenannigans that we're also guilty of, when Rob (said nemesis) gets up too close to them leading onto the front straight and they're side by side. I checked up just enough to get a clean run onto the straight and motor him and about 5 Z cars for the pole in R1 which was a flying start. I then proceed to lug the car down to 3000 in 2nd gear (we both had 3.73s, he has an LS1) and the start was mine. The race was mine too until the damn water temp gauge randomly just buried itself a lap or 2 from the finish. I came in immediately, got it cooled down quickly, and the car seemed fine. The next race, not a money race, the car ran fine. R3 Sunday it pullled the same crap, but I'd built up a good lead and held off for 1 lap to see if the white would fly. When it did, I went just fast enough to not get passed and keep the win. I changed radiator caps for R4 and the car did fine, so was the car fine? I didn't feel confident that it was. I found a leak at this level sensor hole, but wasn't 100% confident that that was my problem.
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To be safe, I was gonna throw on my machine shop fresh spare heads. When I unwrapped them though, it because clear there was a problem.
This fuckery sits right where the firing ring goes so I shitcanned that idea and checked the old heads for warpage. The interwebz say I get a total of 4 thou. I measured 1.5 in the center of both heads, and in the next one over on one of the heads. Sounded good to me so I slapped it back together. For may moons, this car has been a 2 stroke upon startup, but never chugged excessive oil during a race. I discovered why once I had the heads off.
5 valve stem seals basically ceased to exist. That and the passenger side exhaust manifold was pretty loose. Car's a bit cleaner and less stinky now. When I got to Hallett on Friday, it was still barfing a good half a gallon of water out each session. It'd stay cool until I came in then lose its mind. I ordered a 20# radiator cap Friday night and Saturday morning popped that bad boy on along with some Bar's head gasket magical fixer upper. Lo and behold it only barfed out about a pint per session after that, so I survived the weekend. OK survived is an understatement. I got screwed in qual by an dbag in an AI car that wouldn't swallow his pride and move, so I let him know how I felt about that. Then they gridded AI BEHIND CMC because they sucked so bad. I was gonna make a public announcement at the drivers meeting to those in higher classes in CMC, but slower, to GTFO of the way but them gridding behind us sufficed just fine. I still ended up qualifying 4th and pole blew the start so I got 2nd in R1, can't complain about that.
R2 was an invert from R1. I finished 7th I think, but got bumped to 4th as a bunch of people got DQ'd for "passing under yellow". Once I saw how it shook out, I realized how lucky I was. These guys had initiated a move, but bailed and still got penalized. There was a flag stand at the top of the hill between T1 and T2 and that's where they made their mistake. I stuck my nose in down at T2 and bailed and didn't get caught. So right there I had nailed the pole for R4, but I still wanted to send the **** out of R3 to prove a point. I started around 8th and finished 2nd, more than enough to send the point home.
Now we're up to the final. Those in CMC understand how big a deal that Hallett is. If you can win here, you can win at nats. Well unfortunately I didn't win, but I did finally get my *** up on the podium. I blew it in T1, John left me plenty of room but I'm always more comfortable on the outside without a car to run into if I get into the gas too soon. After that, I hounded him for a bit, then missed one ******* shift leaving T9 (the bitch), and never made up the ground. Late in the race we had a multi lap full course yellow and I got stuck behind, you guessed it, some ****** dipshit in a slow *** AI car who didn't understand the urgency of my situation. After the green, he let me by in T2, but I couldn't close that kind of gap in the 1 lap we had until the checker.
Overall an excellent weekend of racing, and I even got a spy photo of our boy @StangkillaSS
Notice his lack of presence and alcohol consumption? And he calls himself a NASA Texan.
Aside from Cryin Bryan, the F bodies generally don't fare well down there, especially not the LT1 cars. I proved that wrong this year. And based on the pro driver's feedback, really has me questioning the need to pony up for the LS swap. I didn't realize how influential the LT1 torque was with respect to how the car handles. If I LS swap I guaranteed need to regear or the car will plow like a dumptruck the way it did last October with the 3.42s. And watching me and Rob leave slow 2nd gear corners, holy crap the the LT-Juan just lays it down! After cracking off some 5-3 downshifts this past weekend, I'm becoming more and more in favor of just keeping this pig LT powered and hopefully guinea pig the 411 swap with it so I don't have to worry about optis anymore.
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