Pieceing together SDCE?
#1
Pieceing together SDCE?
So I currently have a stock ATI 8 rib setup right now. I picked up an SDCE tensioner that I would like to incorporate into my setup. Will I need to purchase a new crank pulley to work with the tensioner? I have an ATI damper on the car with the stock procharger 8 rib pulley bolted to the front but from reading this will not work? I am a bit lost on this. Any help appreciated.
#2
With the 7.65" crank pulley and the sdce tensioner it will raise the belt and and make contact with the factory bell style water pump. You can either get the sdce 7.25" crank pulley or get a ls2 corvette water pump that has a flat face and will clear the belt
#4
Post back if you would when you get it all together. I have been thinking about swapping the ls1 water pump for the ls2 and going bigger on the crank pulley VS a smaller blower pulley. Also do your self a favor and get the Gates laser alignment tool, I think SDCE J bracket spacing is a little different than the stock Procharger .
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#5
Post back if you would when you get it all together. I have been thinking about swapping the ls1 water pump for the ls2 and going bigger on the crank pulley VS a smaller blower pulley. Also do your self a favor and get the Gates laser alignment tool, I think SDCE J bracket spacing is a little different than the stock Procharger .
https://www.google.com/shopping/prod...O46IjwOtup2IDA
https://www.google.com/shopping/prod...O46IjwOtup2IDA
#6
sdce crank pulley is 7.25
I used to have one and went to an aster bracket and im happy with the aster bc i went with the cbm 8.65 crank so i can get 14 lbs out of my p1sc-1 with a 3.7 pulley .
I used to have one and went to an aster bracket and im happy with the aster bc i went with the cbm 8.65 crank so i can get 14 lbs out of my p1sc-1 with a 3.7 pulley .
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#8
When I put my car back together last time I had everything assembled on the engine before it went back in the car. It was so easy to check belt alignment sitting on the floor with the motor hanging in space. I ended up shimming the blower pulley .050 closer to the motor and had to add a shim in between the stand off nut and J bracket on the bottom mount. Had perfect belt alignment with the laser tool, this is the longest I've been able to keep a belt in good shape.
#9
I just got mine going with the sdce bracket and 7.25"/3" pullies but I'm getting to much slip so I threw the 3.4" pulley on. I was getting to 12psi at 3000rpm but starting slipping after that and only got to 16psi once before the belt shredded. While it was at the dyno i was able to make 530whp with the belt slipping. I'm seeing about 14-15psi now with the 3.4"
I wanted to before but was being cheap but now I'm going to up size to 8.65" crank pulley and see if I can't hit 20psi!
I wanted to before but was being cheap but now I'm going to up size to 8.65" crank pulley and see if I can't hit 20psi!
#11
Yeah that'll be the next step for me. Like I said I was being cheap and just wanted to get the car going and didn't want to spend the $$$ on the ATI pulley, CBR pulley & LS2 WP. I have the sdce 7.25" pulley that works with the factory dampner so it was cheaper to buy a headunit pulley to max out the d1sc other than the 3 above.
The bigger pullies will fit with the sdce bracket as well. I up sized on my bro's car that has the LS2 wp from the 7.25" to the 7.65" a couple weeks ago and went from 10.5-11psi to 13.5-14 psi
The bigger pullies will fit with the sdce bracket as well. I up sized on my bro's car that has the LS2 wp from the 7.25" to the 7.65" a couple weeks ago and went from 10.5-11psi to 13.5-14 psi
#12
Yeah that'll be the next step for me. Like I said I was being cheap and just wanted to get the car going and didn't want to spend the $$$ on the ATI pulley, CBR pulley & LS2 WP. I have the sdce 7.25" pulley that works with the factory dampner so it was cheaper to buy a headunit pulley to max out the d1sc other than the 3 above.
The bigger pullies will fit with the sdce bracket as well. I up sized on my bro's car that has the LS2 wp from the 7.25" to the 7.65" a couple weeks ago and went from 10.5-11psi to 13.5-14 psi
The bigger pullies will fit with the sdce bracket as well. I up sized on my bro's car that has the LS2 wp from the 7.25" to the 7.65" a couple weeks ago and went from 10.5-11psi to 13.5-14 psi
#14
Maybe I'll take a pic for you non believers. There's not a lot of difference between the 2 tensioner setups. If you incorporate a cheap man's belt wrap mod or possibly use the aster bottom standoff and idler belt wrap would be identical. I may try to add an idler pulley to that bottom standoff and try the 3" pulley again. I kinda forgot about that option really. Anybody have a part # for an 1.75" offset idler pulley?
My brother made standoffs to ChevyChad specs
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...rap-fbody.html
Aster uses a 2 peice standoff and ChevyChad used a single peice
My brother made standoffs to ChevyChad specs
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...rap-fbody.html
Aster uses a 2 peice standoff and ChevyChad used a single peice
Last edited by Husker98; 06-27-2016 at 04:52 PM.
#15
Maybe I'll take a pic for you non believers. There's not a lot of difference between the 2 tensioner setups. If you incorporate a cheap man's belt wrap mod or possibly use the aster bottom standoff and idler belt wrap would be identical. I may try to add an idler pulley to that bottom standoff and try the 3" pulley again. I kinda forgot about that option really. Anybody have a part # for an 1.75" offset idler pulley?
#16
Standoffs were the same but shims may have to be placed because every car is different. The second sdce setup I bought the previous owner left his shims and washers exactly how he had it on his car but using the laser align tool I had to add a couple washers to one standoff. He was ls1 I'm a '99 5.3
#17
Husker, thanks for the info on what our doing. Keep us posted on how it all works out for you please if you change your system up any. Quick question though, I know with the Aster bracket apparently the water pump pulley needs to be pressed forward some, will this still be the case with an SDCE setup?
#18
It may depend or be different for everyone. I've heard with the Aster some pulled it out and others got away with leaving how it was stock. The reason you need to pull it out is that the pulley is designed to work on a corvette in which the accessories run closer to the engine so on the ls1 accessories they pull it out so the belt lines up better. On my brothers car we pulled it out just a hair. I'll try to get some pics tomorrow