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Old 02-05-2018, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by stockA4
That's a gigantic cam for a big truck! I hope you are ready to be disappointed with the losses your going to see on the low end.

I was really interested to hear how the stock 4.8/5.3 heads would work on the 6.0 let us know before you go and ruin it with that donkey dick!
LMAO, that cam will be good with the heads and a 4000 stall in the 6.0 I wont be changing the setup till march, theres a race in mexico this month on the 25th that i will be attending with the current setup. Hopefully i can get it tuned today. I can tell a huge difference in part throttle acceleration already with the new heads.
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Originally Posted by Venomous281
LMAO, that cam will be good with the heads and a 4000 stall in the 6.0 I wont be changing the setup till march, theres a race in mexico this month on the 25th that i will be attending with the current setup. Hopefully i can get it tuned today. I can tell a huge difference in part throttle acceleration already with the new heads.
that's what I want to hear!
I'm planning to do a budget "TORQUE PIG" build for my 2.73 geared car and I'm thinking an LQ with some stock 706's will be the way to do it!

I'd really like to see a dyno graph of your setup to see what affect, if any the smaller intake valve has on the power curve. I would think that the potential increases in intake velocity along with the increase in compression should provide some sizeable gains bellow 5000rpm
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Originally Posted by stockA4
that's what I want to hear!
I'm planning to do a budget "TORQUE PIG" build for my 2.73 geared car and I'm thinking an LQ with some stock 706's will be the way to do it!

I'd really like to see a dyno graph of your setup to see what affect, if any the smaller intake valve has on the power curve. I would think that the potential increases in intake velocity along with the increase in compression should provide some sizeable gains bellow 5000rpm
I wish we had a dyno. Ill let you know how it feels after i get it retuned. I wouldnt even be able to tell you how it feels towing. i dont even have a hitch reciever
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Originally Posted by Venomous281
I wish we had a dyno. Ill let you know how it feels after i get it retuned. I wouldnt even be able to tell you how it feels towing. i dont even have a hitch reciever
all right then, I guess you "butt dyno" is as good as putting it on the rollers.

do you have a any track times or #s to compare it to?
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Originally Posted by stockA4
all right then, I guess you "butt dyno" is as good as putting it on the rollers.

do you have a any track times or #s to compare it to?
never been to the track either. my 3.73's, 4l80e and 33" tires dont shift out of first till about 70mph. I basically built the truck to run about 300' in 4lo.
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Originally Posted by Venomous281
never been to the track either. my 3.73's, 4l80e and 33" tires dont shift out of first till about 70mph. I basically built the truck to run about 300' in 4lo.
if it really feels better with that setup you might be on to something. I wish I could fine someone who's done this and had it on a dyno
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It is just a matter of time before folks start optimizing quality stock parts... no matter how undesirable they are.
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Originally Posted by mOtOrHeAd MiKe
It is just a matter of time before folks start optimizing quality stock parts... no matter how undesirable they are.
well the super Chevy test proved that the best stock heads for a 5.3 are the 862-706 heads. I'd just really like to see the same test on a 4"+ bore. I have to wonder if people are wasting their money on bigger valves on the milder builds.
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Originally Posted by Big bird55
Correct me if I'm wrong but an lq4 with 59 cc heads and .051 gaskets should be around 10.7 :1. Where is that 11 side coming From?
Yeah thought he had the LQ9 flat top engine.......my bad
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Originally Posted by stockA4
well the super Chevy test proved that the best stock heads for a 5.3 are the 862-706 heads. I'd just really like to see the same test on a 4"+ bore. I have to wonder if people are wasting their money on bigger valves on the milder builds.
For a lot of street engines, yes they are. Especially with all the fancy aftermarket promises associated with big names.

The straight and skinny of it is the 862/706s work great, as intended, on a smaller displacement engine. Port them, add bigger stock valves, and they will work great on more potent combinations - instant gains from the small chamber too. I wish I had done some CNC'd truck heads - versus the 243/799s I got - for compression bump alone.

Ported (https://www.texas-speed.com/p-4345-p...-outright.aspx), the truck castings flow about as well as a stock BBC rectangle port head (http://www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp-...ig-block-test/) - how is that not enough for most hotted up street cars? Other than being able to name drop about expensive max effort speed parts...
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Originally Posted by stockA4
if it really feels better with that setup you might be on to something. I wish I could fine someone who's done this and had it on a dyno
lq4 with 224/224 and 706s milled .030. Dynoed 323rwhp on a mustang dyno through an 80e with a 2800 stall and 4.10s (14 bolt). This is in my rcsb 00 Sierra. Runs high 12s with no N2o. No other mods except for an ls6 intake and full dual exhaust.
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lq4 with 224/224 and 706s milled .030. Dynoed 323rwhp on a mustang dyno through an 80e with a 2800 stall and 4.10s (14 bolt). This is in my rcsb 00 Sierra. Runs high 12s with no N2o. No other mods except for an ls6 intake and full dual exhaust.
was that a stock diameter or a smaller converter? Was it locked up for the pull? How about the the torque and rpm? Can you estimate the weight of the truck and tire diameter?
Show us a time slip too !
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Originally Posted by stockA4
was that a stock diameter or a smaller converter? Was it locked up for the pull? How about the the torque and rpm? Can you estimate the weight of the truck and tire diameter?
Show us a time slip too !
stock size converter (Hughes). Locked.
Ill attach a dyno sheet from before my slowhawk tune with new exhaust, fuel pump, and fast white injectors. I don’t remember the numbers or where I put the sheets. Also, here is a slip with a 150 N2o shot. I don’t have any slips around from running na. I been running N2o for a couple years now. I was on the right and I can post a video of that run if you want. I have since run faster ets btw.



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Oh yeah and close to stock weight I assume (was a v6 with no power options) 4200lbs? and 275/55/16 H&M racemaster DRs
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Originally Posted by DMarts10
Oh yeah and close to stock weight I assume (was a v6 with no power options) 4200lbs? and 275/55/16 H&M racemaster DRs
that's great results for such a mild setup! It's hard to read the numbers on dyno graph from the picture you posted but thank you for taking the time to post them, what rpm does that torque peak at it? It looks really low! I'm wondering how that would work with a little bit less cam duration and an even tighter converter? Stealthy Smooth idling torque pig that can just blast off idle is what I'm after!
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I got it retuned last night, although my idc was at 119% AFR was spot on so we ran with it. ive got some L92 injectors were going to swap in with a hotwire kit on the fuel pump this weekend. But the truck feels great, I can feel the added power. I know i need a stall converter and more gear to help it move in 2/4hi but in 4lo it felt beast. I have 4 28" slicks from my old truck but i dont think this truck will need them for the track so ill just throw some stock 16's on with a 27-28" tire and make a few passes at the track soon. I really want to have my stock converter restalled to a 2800 but i think i should just save the $150 for a real converter. I wish i could have had some 2" intake valves installed but couldnt find anyone willing to do it under $500.
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Originally Posted by mOtOrHeAd MiKe
For a lot of street engines, yes they are. Especially with all the fancy aftermarket promises associated with big names.

The straight and skinny of it is the 862/706s work great, as intended, on a smaller displacement engine. Port them, add bigger stock valves, and they will work great on more potent combinations - instant gains from the small chamber too. I wish I had done some CNC'd truck heads - versus the 243/799s I got - for compression bump alone.

Ported (https://www.texas-speed.com/p-4345-p...-outright.aspx), the truck castings flow about as well as a stock BBC rectangle port head (http://www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp-...ig-block-test/) - how is that not enough for most hotted up street cars? Other than being able to name drop about expensive max effort speed parts...
Here is an example what a set of box stock factory BBC rectangle ports can support: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/stock...ig-cubes-work/
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Good info here. I have an LQ4 with 317s but also have a set of 862's off a 5.3 available. Not going for anything crazy but curious which heads I should put on the 6.0 block...
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Went to the dirt track yesterday, truck felt way stronger. But then on the way home i lost oil pressure. So im debating now if i should throw a crank in the LQ4 or build a gen 3 5.3 with flat top pistons and good rods.
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Venom, what cam are you running with the 5.3 heads, stock?
I think a stock cam is good to about 5500 rpms, does it pull all the way to 5500 or does it feel it kinda levels off?
We have an lq4 and are thinking of ditching the 317s for either 241s or 706 heads in this daily ws6 car. Maybe add a small cam but the bump in compression should make it run decent.


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